Candace Owens vs The World: Kirk Doubts & Conservative Backlash

🚨 On The Ryan Samuels Show, we review Candace Owens’ explosive Shawn Ryan interview (SRS #318). She questions the Charlie Kirk assassination evidence, highlights inconsistencies, and dives into elite influence and media gaslighting. Is she exposing hard truths or fueling division and conspiracy that hurts the America First movement?
We break it down with balance: her pattern of controversy, legal fights, and impact on conservatism. Not a fan show — straight talk on whether her ‘vs the world’ style strengthens or weakens our side amid real battles like family court reform and parental rights.
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Transcript

SPEAKER_13 0:50

Good evening, America. Welcome to the show. We are going to have a very good show tonight. I cannot believe doing what I'm about to do, but it just has to be done. This situation is dominating the news cycle. No other story is coming through the Twitter fear or the X Sphere sphere. And this is an important topic that we need to absolutely cover and stop the madness of this woman. So you guessed it. We're talking about Candace Owens again. Which I'm okay with. Because I want to get this done. I want to get this over with. And this is something that sincerely needs to be addressed. Now, I I've talked about her before. I mean, we talked about her last night. And we talked about how Candace Owens is a grifter, in my opinion, a liar, that she's doing this all for money, that she's very vindictive against Charlie Kirk and angry at Erica Kirk. I think there may be some jealousy there. We're going to go over some old videos of Candace Owens talking about how she was helping Charlie Kirk find girls. I guess she was helping him date. I think maybe there's a little bit of sexual frustration there, and she maybe wanted a piece of Charlie and he never wanted to give it back. That's it's pure speculation. But there's something going on here. There's something going on. Or she is just extremely and extraordinarily unwell mentally. Now I I just I don't know what it is. We're gonna try to figure it out together and see what we can do to try to rationalize this in some sort of way. Because she uh we're the videos I've been watching today, and the the way that she has been on Twitter all since the the Tyler Robinson stuff came out has been absolutely just wild. She's tweeting every hour about every little every little news post that pops up, about every little thing, she's going absolutely ham because she has to defend herself because she has made all of these insane accusations since since Charlie. Charlie was killed, what? Last September. So she has to make these outrageous claims. She has made these outrageous claims, and now she has to back them up against all this evidence that has unequivocally proved her wrong. She made the accusation that Charlie Kirk's microphone went off and killed him, that he was shot from a trapdoor beneath the ground, and that they cemented it over to cover it up, that Erica Kirk is directly involved, and she's an Israeli asset. Outrageous claims that they shouldn't have done, that they should have done CPR, and they weren't doing CPR in him. Therefore, they tried to kill him. Just wild, insane things we're gonna go over. But before we do, make sure you hit that like, share, and subscribe button. Drop a comment down below. If you're listening on the podcast, make sure you follow the the the channel if this is your first time here. The podcast, I think, has grown 178% this month from what I saw this morning on the on the statistics. So great news, all of you. Thank you. I hope you come back. I hope you really enjoy the show and uh you you get something out of it. So, this is what we're gonna cover in depth, in detail. Got lots of receipts to back it up. Don't go anywhere. We will be right back. And in his podcast to Candace Owens, he said, I know Candace is gonna watch this because she's a sociopath, she loves the attention, and everything she does is so that she can get this attention. And he's got more experience with her than basically anybody. Uh, he fired her from the Daily Wire, just like Charlie Kirk fired her from Turning Point USA. Candace Owens, this is just, we're we're gonna go through these. This is one of her first tweets. Or one of her tweets that she put out last night. Candace Owens, 15 hours ago, breaking news. Ben Shapiro just confessed on his show that while Charlie was being transported to the hospital and bleeding out to death, his security was on the phone with Charlie's security receiving updates. I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. Someone explained to me why during the minutes while Charlie was dying in the backseat of the car, Charlie's security team was providing updates to Ben Shapiro's team rather than focusing entirely on saving Charlie's life and finding the killer. Question mark. I will remind you all that Brian Harpo, one of the security members who is in that car en route to the hospital, is currently suing me and is using Ben Shapiro's lawyer, who has sued me relentlessly on Ben's behalf for the past three years. Maybe you're being sued because everything you say is a lie and you slander people. You have like a hundred lawsuits going on right now. Candace then tags Ben Shapiro and goes, at Ben Shapiro hated Charlie. Everyone in all caps knew that. So why the hell was this demon receiving updates in the mere minutes after Charlie was hit en route to the hospital? Who on Charlie's security team betrayed him this way? Everything Ben did following the assassination made my alarm bells go off. I have told you that there is something about the Daily Wire and their relentless stalking of me following following my firing that has made me feel altogether unsafe. I have felt their obsessive focus on destroying me is deranged and increasingly dangerous. What did Andrew culvert mean when he told me it was supposed to be you? Why did Turning Point betray Charlie so quickly by allowing Ben to open at Amfest after declaring immediately that he would pick up Charlie's bloody mic? Why did Ben mention this before today that he was receiving status updates while Charlie was bleeding out? I clocked that Ben was too invested in this. His energy on stage demanded that Megan Kelly call me evil, and his overprotective stance on Erica always register me as deeply nervous. So you're attacking the widow, the widow of Charlie Kirk, accusing her of murdering her husband with no evidence, with no evidence whatsoever. Ben Shapiro, who just happens to be a fellow podcaster, a big one too. There's not many of them, right? Massive ones. There's bigger ones. Like I'm one of the big I think I'm in the top 10%, but I'm not in the top 1%. The difference between the top 10% and the top 1% is millions and millions of people. So he's defensive of Charlie's wife because you're attacking Charlie's wife, and now you're using that against him. Ben Shapiro is satanic. Everything in my soul tells me he worships Satan. Literally. Look at his demeanor in this clip. We need to find out exactly who on Charlie's team betrayed him by providing immediate updates to this parasite. Share far and wide. Now, this is the video. So we I I I I didn't know if I was gonna play the video first and then read what you said. But now let's listen to what Ben actually said, right? So you heard this, he's evil demonic. His team is sharing in for Charlie's team is sharing information with Ben Shapiro's team. That means they're in on it together. Uh it's a conspiracy. Ben Shapiro's a Jew. It's the Jews again. Which is ridiculous. Here's actually what he had to say. It's 23 seconds.

SPEAKER_04 12:13

Just listen. So I remember where I was when all this was happening. I was in Los Angeles. I had sort of a breakfast slash lunch meeting with somebody. And my I got the news that Charlie had been shot, and my security was on the phone with Charlie's security because nobody knew what the hell was going on. Well, Charlie was still in the back of the car and we were sort of getting updates along the way. At 2 40 p.m. So that's it.

SPEAKER_13 12:40

That's all he said. But everything is a conspiracy theory to somebody who is just not well. And and I that's just the bottom line. So uh Ben Shapiro's security team is communicating with Charlie Kirk's security team, obviously, because he is concerned about let me rephrase this. They're giant conservative political figures. One of them was assassinated by a gunman. Their security teams are going to talk to each other to analyze threats. Ben Shapiro's security team is going to talk to Charlie Kirk's security team and saying, what the hell is going on? I need all the information. I need to make sure that Ben Shapiro is not at risk of being killed. They they communicate with each other. It's executive protection details. They also, the Secret Service, I'm sure, called and talked to Charlie Kirk's security team. If they're going to kill Charlie Kirk, they may be after the president or vice president or congressman or senator or some is this a coordinated attack? What information do you have for me? But no, that's that's a conspiracy to Candace Owens. That's a conspiracy to Candace Owens. Here is a tweet. This is from Jeremy Boring. I was responsible for Ben's security for a decade. FRG has provided that security for years. Ben does not have his own security apparatus. I was sitting at lunch with Jake and Robin when Charlie was shot. They were aware almost immediately were in touch with the TP USA team almost immediately. And they were almost immediately conferring with their own team to ensure their clients, including you, were safe. You're right that they're honorable men. They're good at their jobs too. I will say everyone at Daily Wire knows is a fun use of epistemic closure, though. There's no one better at rhetorical manipulation than you. He's talking about Candace Owen. Candace Owen's response. I should pull it up here. Candace Owens' response. No, you lying bitch. Ben's team was not FRG. He had his own security apparatus that was former IDF. Everyone at Daily Wire knows this. All right, IDF, Israeli Defense Force. They're everywhere. So Candace goes on to Sean Ryan's podcast. I like Sean Ryan. He's actually kind of neutral. People were kind of upset that he had her on. I'm not. I mean, I think she's got a right to be heard. I think her the more she speaks, the more our case is heard and represented for what she is exactly. And that's just a lying grifter who 100% does not know uh what she's talking about. I mean, she she's frightening a freaking amateur. I don't even know how the hell she's so popular. I mean, I think she wrote the coattails of Charlie Kirk. I think she's a black conservative. And if you're a black conservative, you get very far just by that alone. And talent sometimes takes a back seat because people say, Oh, a black conservative? We never see that. Let's hear more. But here she is on Sean Ryan's show talking about Charlie Kirk.

SPEAKER_08 16:42

I mean, I don't know. Do you do you give CPR to somebody that's been shot in the fucking neck?

SPEAKER_02 16:47

Well, you if you don't keep someone's heart going, it doesn't matter, right? Like nothing else matters if your heart stops pumping. So yeah, you would give CPR, I would imagine. You keep CPR going at all times. I'm I'm certainly not a medical professional, but I do know that like if your heart stops, you're dead. So you gotta keep the heart going. And them not having the ambulance on standby.

SPEAKER_08 17:11

I'm not standing up for them. I don't know if that's I don't know if you would do CPR.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

That would be the point of, you know, if your heart's not going, your heart's not going.

SPEAKER_13 17:21

Sean Ryan should know the answer to this question. And he asked it and didn't answer for the guy's a tier two special operator, Navy SEAL, former CIA SWAT team guy. The answer to that is no. Okay. Somebody has a hole in their side, the last thing you do is take the muscle that pumps the heart throughout the entire body and puts your weight on it and pump all of the blood out of the hole. Because they're just gonna bleed out and bleed to death. As a general rule, that's not advised because their heart's still gonna pump. He knows the answer to that question, but Candace thinks she knows everything. She even attacks Erica Kirk on Sean Ryan's podcast again. Here, watch this.

SPEAKER_08 18:11

Do you I mean, we were talking about this earlier. I came here from Boca Raton 4. It's the shallowest fucking place on the on the planet. You see, 19-year-old girls with 76-year-old men every single day, playing tonsil hockey and more, you know, and that's just that's just what that place is. Do you think it do you think that maybe she, when they met, she was you know, she just saw a paycheck. And she's a narcissist and had no feelings, no love, no nothing for him, just wanted to marry into a guy who's making $150 million a year.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

Even if everything you just said was true, she was motivated by money to marry him, she didn't actually love him. Let's even add that she hated him secretly, right? When someone dies like that, you still have a human reaction.

SPEAKER_13 19:08

Do you I mean So Erica Kirk hasn't had a human reaction, she hasn't mourned the loss of her husband. And you know, I I don't know. I don't know their marriage, I don't know, you know, what they felt, what what how she truly felt about him. You're never gonna know. Is there is that a possibility? Yeah, is it likely? I I don't think so. Not to that extent. Maybe she was attracted to him more because hey, he's the leader of this this this powerful organization, and he's got communication with presidential candidates, and he's this powerful speaker, and he's got money. Yeah, women like that stuff. It's just it's nature. It's like women like really tall men. It's just it's it's it's part of the the the attraction of our sexes. But to say she didn't have a human reaction, she absolutely had a human reaction to Charlie Kirk's death. Erica Kirk was also a beauty pageant person forever. She was like Miss Arizona. So she walks out and she answers the question and she puts on that that fake smile. So when she goes out in front of the camera, I think sometimes her old beauty pageant strategies come out and she sometimes acts a certain way that you may feel different about. I mean, I don't feel different about it. I don't I think what happened to her husband is horrible and demonic, and everybody mourns and grieves in their own way. I think she is trying to do the best that she can with these two children and protect their father's legacy. Yeah, you know, I mean, I I the the love and affection seems real. I don't think she's faking it, man. I don't, and I damn sure don't think that she had him killed or was involved like at all. Here's Candace again.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

You think you know I sat down with her for four hours. I was reticent to explore any conspiracies about her. I was slow to do it because first and foremost, she's the mother of Charlie's kids. That that's first and foremost. Secondly, it required me to have to go through a second stage of grief that I was not ready to do. I had a very hard time at Charlie's death. Still do.

SPEAKER_13 21:42

Uh it's all about her. It's all about Candace. I, I, I, me, I had a very hard time. That's why I couldn't see the signs.

SPEAKER_02 21:55

But to be the person that Charlie was speaking to so much about how much he wanted love, to when I had to take time off and just go to Wyoming and try to get my head right after it, I read through all of our messages, you know, and so I had I relived it all. And because you just, you know, I was in a phase of denial. I was really at that phase where I was hoping and I went through bargaining, I went through anger, I went through a very aggressive safety denial. And I think my husband was realizing that I needed to get away at that point because I was trying to say, like, no, maybe he's really alive. Like, you know, maybe they put him in witness protection. Like, that's that bargaining and then also the denial that's just in my face. And when I got out there and I was reading the messages, and before she came into his life, and Charlie just really, really, really wanted love, right? He that was like it. And it was almost like poetic the stuff that he was writing about how love could kind of make men move mountains.

SPEAKER_13 22:56

And so for me to that kind of turn you on a little bit, Candace, when he wasn't looking at you. Seems like you might have liked that a little bit too much.

SPEAKER_02 23:09

It was almost like poetic, the stuff that he was poetic. He was writing about how how love could kind of make men move mountains. And so for me to have to mourn him and then have to consider that the thing that he wanted most, like he didn't get, it it just gutted me. It gutted me. And so, but I couldn't deny it anymore. I couldn't deny it, and it was beyond intuition, it was beyond. Her being weird. It was beyond her being at the office. And then I got the Zoom calls. My assumption was that she was grieving like I was. And my assumption, I didn't know she was in the office the next week. As soon as she got back, she just went straight to the office.

SPEAKER_08 23:53

And she was in the office the next week.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

Yep. As soon as she gave that speech to the podium that you saw where she addressed the nation, not the I forgive him speech, but like the first one that was like 48 hours after he died. She was in the office that whole week.

SPEAKER_13 24:09

So what? I mean, so what? She was in the office. I mean, so what? And she just continued so what? She went to the office. Her husband was just killed. He's the CEO of this organization. It has to keep going. You're his wife. It is also what is providing you and your children money. It's also your husband's legacy. You better get in there. And you better make sure that it's ran right. I mean, she was deeply involved in it before he died. She wasn't just gonna like run away and not deal with it. People deal with things in different ways. It doesn't make you guilty or suspicious all of the time. I mean, give me a break. But doesn't I mean doesn't that sound like she would just had a little bit of jealousy? Like me, oh, he used to write these poems that would move mountains. Men will move mountains for women. It was so romantic. And he was the head of Turning Point USA, and he was tall, and he was a millionaire, and he was so hot. Erica got him. He he did. She did. Erica got him, and I I didn't get him. That's what I think's really going on in her head. That's what it sounds like to me. It doesn't sound like anything normal. She even did an entire series trying to expose Erica Kirk. And the biggest smoking gun that she came up with was that the way that Erica Kirk cult with the name she called her grandparents. I mean, look, she'll turn anything, anything to try to connect the dots on something that just isn't real.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

Erica is referring to her grandfather as her morfar. I was like, okay, so I looked it up. It means grandfather in Swedish. Like she's maybe she doesn't, you know, but she it's cute, okay? Maybe she's not fluent, but she's cute. And then they explained it to me a little further. They said, no, Candace. The Swedish language is quite literal here. Morfar quite literally translates into mother's father. Morfar. And farfar quite literally translates into father's father. We have different words for these things. These have entirely different meanings. You would never call your father's mother your morfar. You would never call that's what she's doing. She's calling him her morfar. That is Erica's farfar. If Kent is her father, her father's father is her farfar. She said, a woman emailed us, she said, no Swedish grandfather would ever allow you to refer to him as morfar if he was not actually your morfar. Okay. If he was your farfar, he'd say, Very cute, I'm your farfar. Let's get that straight. This would be something akin to being someone's grandfather and allowing them to call you uncle. What's going on here? This is an incredibly interesting wrinkle. Which brings us to a point where we should introduce you to the family tree so you can just kind of see what's going on here. Because this more far, far, far scandal troubles me deeply. Is she mistaking? Is she making a mistake at all? Or is she accidentally actually trying to tell us the truth?

SPEAKER_13 27:34

More far, far, far. No, because you see, it was a he was a CIA analyst. And he worked for the CIA, who actually is tied to the Mossad, and his great uncle's nephew's brother had a next-door neighbor. And that neighbor's dog was a German shepherd. You know who else had German shepherds? The Nazis. And what are the Nazis afraid of? The Jews. See, it's all connected, it's all intertwined. And that's what happened to Charlie. That is like the equivalent of her logical analysis of any given situation. Any given situation. The more I watch her, the more I look at her, the more I actually think she's just losing it. Like literally losing it. Here is Candace Owens. And you know, these are things that she's been doing too that just tells you, just like kind of what type of person she is. This is Candace Owens publishing all of Charlie Kirk's text messages to the world. Charlie Kirk, like many other young men, adored Jordan Peterson, but notice the hypocrisy of his viciousness towards people after October 7th. I know because he texted me about it. We we always texted like friends, and we always share jokes and memes. Zionists will not rewrite Charlie Kirk's history and edit out his true friends. His opinions on Israel were changing. He was exploring Catholicism. I always told you the truth, and this is just a funny meme he saw of Jordan Peterson. I don't like Nick, but this is hilarious. It's just Carly Charlie Kirk sharing a meme of Jordan Petersip and Nick DeFrontez. I mean, that's it. It's again, it's nothing. Nothing special, nothing spectacular, nothing to write home about. I mean, absolutely nothing. Here is the Sean Ryan intro to the show. Candace Owens, you're look how happy she is to stare in that camera. I'm a queen.

SPEAKER_10 30:05

And I have Candace Owens claiming I murdered my husband.

SPEAKER_08 30:09

Today, through your independent platform, you continue to cover politics, culture, and current events while questioning official narratives and sparking national debate.

SPEAKER_02 30:19

I always try to approach things with just what do I observe with my own eyes? And when I brought myself to being able to watch the footage of Charlie dying, first thing I thought was that he was shot from below. I watched the friction of his body and I saw that his necklace broke before he was hit. I thought I always thought that was so strange. I was like, somebody explain to me why if someone shot him from above, his necklace would break first and whip this way, and then he gets hit.

SPEAKER_13 30:48

What happened was we got exclusively the See, this is when Sean Ryan should step in as an experienced vet, as an experienced Navy SEAL, tier two guy, and explain that the velocity of the round hits you before the round does itself. And the velocity is so strong it will rip a shirt, it will throw a necklace up into the air, it will knock a microphone back before the round even hits you. But, you know, the argument could be made that he's not there to be an expert. He's there to just probe her and ask her her questions, and he's not there to correct her. I mean, you can make that argument too. I'm just here to interview you and ask you questions. Tell me more about that. Tell me more about this. That might explain the CPR question earlier. Just food for thought. He's just generating whoever she is and whatever she wants to say.

SPEAKER_02 31:41

Car photos. The car that transported Charlie to the hospital. When I saw the car fix, first thing I said was, Oh, that's so weird. Like, well, why is there black glass on the floor?

SPEAKER_17 31:51

Tyler Robinson is the name that, according to multiple sources, is the suspect who is in custody.

SPEAKER_08 31:57

Who is Tyler Robinson? What the fuck was he doing there?

SPEAKER_02 32:00

I don't think Tyler Robinson was there. I feel confident stating that Tyler Robinson did not kill Charlie Kirk.

SPEAKER_13 32:10

There's only one problem with that, is that there's a massive, overwhelming amount of evidence to suggest that he did kill Charlie Kirk. Even it allegedly admitting it to his parents. Family work. And turning himself in.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

What are we conserving at the end of the day is the question. And to me, it's it's traditional families. I think that's our best guard against the government. I'm a grown adult woman. I know what I'm saying. And Dave Rubin was messaging me, and it's just full-blown gaslighting. And I stood firm on it and was like, no, I'm no.

SPEAKER_15 32:50

Friday morning, the Daily Wire's Oh dear Morning posted on a Daily Wire and Candace Ellen have ended their relationship.

SPEAKER_08 32:58

One thing I wasn't expecting to hear today is dedicated to the Daily Wire from Candace Delic.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

I owe them so much.

SPEAKER_08 33:07

I can't believe the shit they pulled with Freddy.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

I don't like what Reagan did, but these were two young girls, and they were best friends, and it was just a mindful homosexual man doing this because he wanted Brighton suffer. This was the biggest lie that ever come and completely transformed my opinion.

SPEAKER_08 33:26

Do you think that she had something to do with it? She was complicit, or do you think that she just saw a paycheck?

SPEAKER_02 33:35

Hey guys, it's Candace Owens. You can watch my episode with Sean Ryan on Vigilance Elite Patreon. The person that I think I placed stock in was Trump. And we got played. I mean, there's no other way to say it. I i it's kind of shocking the ways that he lied. And so you have to then go, why? Trump desperately, by any means necessary, wanted to win again. And his entire life's mission then transformed into I will do anything to win again, including making a deal with the devil.

SPEAKER_08 34:24

How much wealth has it last since he took this presidency?

SPEAKER_02 34:27

The better question is how much more do they need?

SPEAKER_00 34:34

He's been locked out of his Twitter account now. The platform suspending him after an anti-Semitic tweet. That tweet said, quote, when I wake up, I'm going DEF CON 3 on Jewish people.

SPEAKER_13 34:48

Donald Trump's in on it. And now we're tying in Kanye. Again, I'm not mad for Sean Ryan for having her on. I think it's great. I think it's good to have the discussion. And I think she should be heard so that we can all continue to just, I mean, laugh at her. That's what I'm doing. Here she is claiming that there's not a shred of evidence for Tyler Robinson. I mean, this stuff is just, it's categorically not true.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Still nobody, not even on Tyler Robinson's defense team, you would think I would be like number one they'd reach out to.

SPEAKER_13 35:25

Right. Yeah. Here's she, I mean, Ben Shabriro hit the nail on the head, dude. She is a complete sociopath, psychopathic tendencies, 100% wholehearted. 100%. You would think that Tyler Robinson's defense team would reach out to me. Why wouldn't they call me? I'm the expert. It's about me. I love Charlie. I protect Charlie. I'm doing this for Charlie. I'm not doing this for me. I need to be involved. I need to be an expert. I need to be on the witness stand because I can fix this case. I have the evidence, even though none of it makes any sense.

SPEAKER_02 36:03

And by the way, still nobody, not even on Tyler Robinson's defense team, you would think I would be like number one. They'd reach out to. They'd be like, her inbox, the tips. I've got the names, the people who said this person lied, and here's where it was. No, they're not interested. They are just not interested. They got their guy. They have got their guy, and it is Tyler Robinson, with not a shred of evidence. Just they're they're the ones really going off of vibes in a dream, if we're being honest. Why wouldn't I testify for the defense?

SPEAKER_13 36:34

Tyler Robinson's defense team is in on this scheme. And it's obvious that they are. So anybody who disagrees with Candace Owens, anybody who doesn't like Candace Owens is somebody who needs to be dealt with. Here is just uh one of the clips of her being totally just changing what she has to say over the course of a couple of months or a year.

SPEAKER_02 37:17

This is Arch Nemesis, Nick Fuentes. Okay. He delivered a more impassioned response to what happened to Charlie than Charlie's wife did. By taking a stab at Charlie Kirk, who's dead. He had his great epiphany about Israel after they stopped paying him to shill. That's why I didn't take one minute or one sentence rather of him trying to eulogize Charlie Kirk seriously, because that right there is the real Nick Fuentes. It's unbelievable the forgiveness that she granted, the strength that it took for her to call for that forgiveness. It's just unmatched, and it really made a difference. And I was being serious when I tweeted that I think it was the most consequential speech in American history.

SPEAKER_13 37:58

He delivered a more So in 2026, this is what she's saying. As of course, her advertising money is coming up and her clicks and her views are going through the roof, and she's getting paid. She's making what millions of dollars off of this. Like literally millions of dollars a month she's making. If she was not making these claims, she wouldn't be making millions of dollars a month. To forget Okay. Forget that she imagine she didn't you know, this wouldn't be as bad if she didn't personally know Charlie Kirk and didn't personally work for him and didn't help him date and text girls on his behalf, and didn't actually pretend to be a friend and love him and adore him. Only to stand on his grave and say, me, me, me, me, gimme money, gimme money, me, me, me, me. I should testify to the defense. I was distraught. I was this. Forget about Erica, forget about her family, forget about the kids, forget about all of them. It's all about me. This is all about me. This is Candace Owens talking about ooh, the Epstein files. If you're new to this show, I'm not the guy who likes the Epstein files. There's nothing there. It's over. But here she is, just rubbing her pennies together. Oh, how much money if I can make if I say another conspiracy theorist?

SPEAKER_02 39:43

Since everyone, including Trump, seems to run tangential to the Epstein Network and Eastern Europe, everyone having to deny, oh, I knew him. Trump's like, I employed Virginia Jewry. I employed her at Mar-a-Lago, but I kicked, I once kicked Jeffrey Epstein out. Well, we hung out at parties, but I kicked him out for other reasons. Truly, I think the reason that they um had disagreement was actually over a real estate deal. It wasn't because of Jeffrey Epstein's parties or anything inappropriate that he was doing. But it's weird. It's like his name just keeps coming up, and then we learn that he's calling Charlie Kirk, right? Charlie and upset about Charlie Kirk allowing people to roast the Epstein network, demanding clarity. And when you read that New York Times article, it makes it seem like Trump just never wanted these files to be released. Was he protecting his um donors? Well, obviously. Obviously, he's protecting his donors, but who else is he protecting? What does he know about the Epstein network? What files are they still holding? Asserting that the reason is because children are harmed. We're protecting the victims. That's the reason we're withholding this information.

SPEAKER_13 40:54

It's not even close to what he said. But we now have tied Charlie Kirk to the Epstein files. So we're gonna loop this around. Here is Here's Ben Shapiro. And yeah, I'm just gonna let him say it because he said it best. I love Ben Shapiro. I've been a fan of Ben Shapiro for many, many years. We're actually quasi-neighbors. He's a little bit far from here, but not too far from here. He's within driving distance for sure.

SPEAKER_04 41:22

Yeah, let's listen to what he has to say. So here's the thing it's an actual sin to listen to Candace Owens spew this evil trash. If you do, you're giving her your time, which means that obviously she's making a lot of money off of this sort of stuff. But what's far more important than the money, because money is just money. But what's far more important, if you give her your brain cells to kill, you are harming yourself, you are harming the world. Stop pretending that you're subscribing to ideological pornography just because it's entertaining, it's soul destroying. Not just for Erica Kirk or her children or the people at TPUSA, but for you, and then for the country.

SPEAKER_13 41:59

He's not wrong. I mean, he's not wrong. I mean, you're if you're listening to it, uh Candace, she's an IQ test, is what she is. If you go and watch Candace Owen's show, and you can't think for yourself, she's not revealing, she's she's not making any strong case about her conspiracies. It's all just circumstantial. Like, I hope we have time for it. Kind of running out of time here, but there, you know, there's glass in the in the vehicle of the car, so there's glass on the ground. You know what else happens? It has glass, a microphone. There's a microphone on Charlie Kirk's chest, and it has glass. And if if you want to break the glass, you can't break it. It's impossible to break it. The only thing that can break it is is an explosion into his neck. That's what killed him. But it exploded on the podium, but the glass is on the floor of the SUV. Hmm. Interesting. Here is Candace Owens saying that, I mean, basically everything is a conspiracy and that she uses Wikipedia to research.

SPEAKER_02 43:13

We are talking about trying to learn the truth about a narrative or what's happened. Wikipedia has always, always, always been bought and paid for to suit Zionist narratives. But if you are a regular viewer of the show, then you are very familiar with the name Aleister Crowley. If you are not, please, in your spare time, hit Wikipedia. That's not what I'm saying to you. You don't need to go on a deep Reddit feed. This is on Wikipedia. And now I tell people, this is on Wikipedia. This is not on some deep Reddit feed. Okay, so we're gonna pull up this Wikipedia page. Sorry, if you can go back to just the Wikipedia page, I'm gonna show you this.

SPEAKER_13 43:47

This is you any of you that know how to research or dive into anything, know that Wikipedia is not good. You can't even use it on a college paper. You can't even you can't use it on a college paper. It's not it's not a legitimate verifiable source because anybody can go in there and just edit it and update it and change it.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

This is on Wikipedia. This is you this is on this Wikipedia page. And I'm just pulling up the Wikipedia page here. That's on this Wikipedia somewhere. That's like a Wikipedia page that says on his Wikipedia page, and you can even look this up on Wikipedia. Uh here it is in the Wikipedia page. And if you go in through this guy's Wikipedia page, quite literally said, and it's on his Wikipedia page. It's further stipulated on this Wikipedia page.

SPEAKER_17 44:32

Even saying it sounds crazy, but it's just available on Wikipedia page.

SPEAKER_13 44:34

Even Alex Jones.

SPEAKER_17 44:37

That's on the Wikipedia page. I don't want I I want this to be shown that this is on the Wikipedia page. Look this up, and you should look this up. Okay, go to Wikipedia.

SPEAKER_02 44:45

It is a reality. You want to know how we know that? Well, you can just look this up on Wikipedia if you don't believe me.

SPEAKER_17 44:51

Wikipedia for the win!

SPEAKER_13 44:55

We are talking about Candace Owens is an IQ test. If you think you learn anything, if you believe anything she says, then you have the IQ of a mashed potato. I'm not insulting you, it's not an insult. It's something that you need to recognize so that you can start. I mean, I would start very small with building blocks and putting shapes in their proper holes. And maybe reprogram your brain. Wikipedia. Give me a break. Here's Ben Shapiro again. Talking about his How he regrets hiring Candace Owens.

SPEAKER_04 45:40

Valid point. We had no indicator of the direction that she was going to turn at the time. It is one of my great regrets. I know that it is one of the great regrets for Jeremy Boring and Caleb Robinson, who were the co-CEOs of the company at the time. And it became increasingly clear that Candace had little connection with the truth. I, for one, wanted to fire Candace significant significantly earlier than she actually was fired. It was not my decision. Eventually, Jeremy and Caleb made the proper and correct decision to fire Candace Owens. And I will point out that at the time, entire swathes of the right suggested that we had done something wrong. And then Candace has continued to demonstrate precisely what she is every single day since.

SPEAKER_13 46:28

Charlie Kirk. Which is why she was forced out of TPUSA. Here is here's here is her talking about the photo evidence of Charlie Kirk's assassination. This is long. I don't know how much of this we're gonna be able to get to, but let's watch it.

SPEAKER_02 46:56

Alright, so first let us begin with the photos inside the van. We had only showed one. I'm going to show you this one here so that you guys can take this. Here is a closer bit. I do want to point out that it does very much look to me like there is some sort of uh shattered glass in the back. I know some people think that this could be a part of his mic that he had on him. And so I just want to say that I do see that all across the back seat, which is interesting. And I know some people are working, Baron Coleman being one of them, working on trying to examine why they told the story about how Brian Harpo was hanging out of the SUV, which wasn't the circumstance when they pulled out. So it's a bit confusing. Hopefully this helps. Uh, here is another photo, and I should have said viewer discretion advise. You know, they had told us this story about how they had so much gauze and so much and all this stuff. We were able to find basically what you see in the corner there that kind of looks like a UPS ticket, like a UPS, yeah. I guess you could say a UPS package ticket. What that is is actually Insta clot, and which is essentially instant gauze, and there's just one on the floor.

SPEAKER_13 48:13

The reason that there's just one is because you pile it on the wound and you bring it with you into the hospital. Maybe one fell off and onto the ground, but that that's you don't like once gauze is on an open wound, you don't remove it because the wound starts to heal and the skin starts to scab, and the scab gets caught onto the gauze. And then when you pull the gauze off, it reopens the wound. So professional emergency medical technicians, paramedics, you add it, you add it, you add it. Oh, it's covered in blood. Add more, add more. You never pull it off. That's why. Simple little things that are available on Wikipedia, Kansas. But I guess we only look at Wikipedia when it is some, I don't know, Freemason conspiracy theory about how all politicians are pedophiles so that lizard people can control them.

SPEAKER_02 49:10

So unless he opened one and then put the rest of the packaging in his bag, which would be unusual, there's only one on the floor there that we could see. Hopefully, again, having looked through these photos and taking a look around, if you are one of the people, this is another side angle, if you are one of the people that has been working on this story, you can, you know, hopefully I'll just see you in the online universe and I can share these photos with you because again, this now feels in important and I I don't I don't trust, I have no understanding as to why Turning Point USA would not share every piece of footage they have. Obviously, the feds are not telling us the truth. And uh also Kash Patel has been caught lying. I don't understand how Kash Patel is still in office, but I guess everyone is just if you lie for the right people, you know, which seems to be always be Israel, then you will be protected. Even if you rape people, which we've just learned, you will be protected somehow, redacted at the very least. Now we're gonna get into this video. This is a long video. I told you guys how this happened, how I came about this. In the beginning, I didn't suspect anything with turning point, obviously at all changed. After I had a phone call with Terrell, I recognized he was acting very strange, very strange on the phone, lying, saying he didn't know how to send a file. I was genuinely reaching out to him because I thought I could help clear his name because people thought he was suspicious for taking down the camera. And I thought he was going to give me a perfectly reasonable reason as to why he did that, like, oh, I was just instructed by the Fed or something to do that, and I was nervous. Nope, nope, just excuse after excuse, and I didn't understand why there would be any reason he was lying, saying he didn't know how to send a file, but you run an audiovisual company, Terrell Farnsworth. Now I've learned about his dad and his uh his uncle.

SPEAKER_13 50:59

Everybody's in on it. Everybody. Everybody's in on it. So there's there's another theory. She the problem is that she's not consistent. There's a thousand other theories. There's a and there's always theories, and it depends, I guess, on how many people are watching her show. Here's the secret trapdoor theory.

SPEAKER_02 51:26

There is a massive pipeline that was almost exactly behind where Charlie was sitting. Here's that that maybe it's a water pipeline. I don't know, but there it is under the flag. And to your right, I went into my tips line and I saw that somebody had messaged me about this. More than one person messaged me about this. They're like, hey, yeah, there's like a whole underground thing there. And to your right, you're observing those two little boxes, and they told me that that was a trapdoor. Now I'm not implying someone, you know, popped up and shot Charlie, but that's a close-up of that area. I'm just implying that there's an entire underground there. And I remember when I looked at the footage, I felt like it was coming up. I don't know anything about ballistics. I'm not an expert.

SPEAKER_13 52:12

Clearly not.

SPEAKER_02 52:13

If there was a hatch door nearby, then we can assume, as we should always assume with colleges, obviously stadiums, there's always an underground path. So I'm wondering if the federal government has explored the possibility that somebody could have been under Charlie and done that while everyone's looking around and thinking that a shot went off from here, if that was just maybe like decoy number two, and actually Charlie was shot from beneath him, which then could maybe explain why there was no exit wound. Again, I'm theorizing because I have a right to. I have a right to think. And that is interesting to me. Where do where does it go? Where where do the tunnels underneath UVU lead to? Right? That's an interesting question. Maybe everyone's like that.

SPEAKER_13 53:02

Well, maybe number one, maybe when maybe somebody like you, who's so amazing and so great and so powerful, Candace, maybe you could call UVU and say, I want to look in these tunnels. It's not a crime scene anymore. Or better yet, just walk on the campus and open it and jump in it. You're allowed on campus, it's a public campus. There's not no trespassing, it's not a restricted area. Go there, send somebody, explore the tunnels yourself. And she'll find a towel in there. There's this towel in the corner. Now, what else was there at the time when Charlie Kirk was shot? A blanket. And what rhymes with blanket? Towel. This is how ridiculous she is. She's absolutely just ludicrous. Here is more than she's just been rocketing off tweets. Rocketing off this one is from an hour ago. This is the diligent denison. Here is just a video of Tyler Robinson.

SPEAKER_14 54:31

And Agent Davis, who are we seeing here?

SPEAKER_07 54:34

That's Tyler Robinson.

SPEAKER_14 54:36

And although we are watching it on video, what is he wearing at this time?

SPEAKER_07 54:42

He's working a dark-colored baseball cap with a has like a maybe the hurdy symbol on it, uh, like a white symbol on front.

SPEAKER_13 54:49

It's a burgundy short-sleeve shirt with the comment on the video is why do we never clearly see Tyler Robinson's face? This is from another account called the Diligent Denison. And Candace Owens retweets it because, as demonstrated on my show, there were many young men that all woke up and decided to dress in maroon shirts. This is another one of her conspiracies that everybody in maroon shirts that day was part of this kill team. Maroon shirts and light shorts on the day of Charlie's assassination. So she says maroon shirts and light shorts. There were all of these people, they were in on it. Therefore, Tyler Robinson would be in on it too. But Tyler Robinson in this video is wearing blue jeans, Candace. You're contradicting yourself in your own tweet. The footage can be any one of these young men, and in my opinion, is likely multiple of them. If Tyler Robinson's defense would like to contact me, I'd be happy to supply them the folder of the Maroon Boys that I began archiving when I noticed the bizarre fashion trend. Again, she wants to be so involved in this case for her, for her, for her, for her business, for her money, not for Charlie's death. She does not care. She doesn't, she's it, I am convinced she's an actual psychopath or sociopath. She has some sort of personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, borderline partiality disorder. And I think she wants to be, she wants to throw herself in this that she's going to be some saving grace to the guy who killed her supposed friend. There's mountains of evidence that he killed Charlie Kirk, including his own statements. I have maintained that the feds had multiple decoy maroon boys on the ground that day. Without a clear image, they certainly cannot declare it as Tyler Robinson, which is why all the Zionist influencers are hoping they can simply hypnot hypnotize the public into trusting blurry images and videos. For such an quote, open and shut case, they have thus far provided zero evidence of anything outside of criminal government conspiracy that likes of which hasn't been seen since the JFK assassination. Here's this microphone theory. It's stupid. And these are like her little minions. This Candon Sullens has presented irrefutable evidence that Charlie Kirk's road microphone, the one worn around under his shirt, was shattered into countless pieces. The transport vehicles for is covered in minuscule shards of tempered glass. How do you know it's tempered glass? How do you know it's not one of the Secret Service guys or a security guard's sunglasses that fell off when they were carrying Charlie and they were all doing CPR and plugging his wounds and stomping on his glasses, and that's what's left over? It's inexplicable that this crucial detail hasn't been mentioned by Charlie's friends or security team because everybody was in on it. Everybody. Charlie's little kids, his three-year-old kids, they were in on it too. They were patsies. They were part of the scheme. They're in the bushes. Here she is talking about temper just glass. It's not, it's irrelevant evidence.

SPEAKER_02 58:17

These are the worst people. Many of them across the events, the many events Charlie had put on stage and given a spotlight by Charlie Kirk. And they are now full-time trying to convince you that you shouldn't believe your own eyes and you should trust the feds. I know vengeance does not belong to me, but I have to tell you, it is really hard for me to curb the frustration, the anger, the disappointment, and equal parts rage that I feel toward those people.

SPEAKER_13 58:50

Fake. All fake.

SPEAKER_02 58:53

Here it is. Any questions about whether that's tempered glass? Now you can say you can't necessarily we all agree it's glass, but you it's definitely definitively not the car glass.

SPEAKER_13 59:04

Is it? Is it not? It's not tinted in windows. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 59:07

Let's arrive at this point. We'll say, I agree. Charlie's road microphone is shouted on the car, but does it mean that it was rigged? That's my devil's advocate. Doesn't mean that it was rigged. Okay. So tell us how it was broken in the car. You go be the conspiracy theorist, because that's what you're gonna have to do. Your your stories are gonna have to get dumber and dumber. And while you're at it, could you also tell us why it is that what if when Char even if say, because we don't know what that this is from.

SPEAKER_13 59:40

This is just chunks of something, plastic or glass. She doesn't even know if it's glass. But they carried him into the car. The guy was dying. They threw him in. They ran to the hospital. Maybe his microphone came off, and there's five guys standing around him trying to do CPR, trying to plug him up, and they're stomping it and they're breaking it. How do you know that didn't happen? The immediate assumption, Candace, is that hope. There's bits of plastic on the ground. Microphones are also made of plastic. It must have exploded and killed Charlie. There's no other logical explanation in the mayhem and trauma of this scenario that it could be anything else.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:22

Despite telling what happened in that car many times, oh, didn't realize my kids were all in the backseat. They heard everything. Frank's praying. We're speeding, we're weaving through traffic. I'm just packing that wound, packing that wound. Nobody mentioned this?

SPEAKER_13 1:00:41

Nobody mentioned that something's on the ground and nobody's focused on it because they're trying to plug the bullet hole in Charlie Clinton's neck.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:52

Nobody.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:25

That people will use you and abuse you. Here she is on Sean Ryan again.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:32

Who do you think is behind this?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:33

I don't think Tyler Robinson was there.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:36

You don't think he was there?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:38

I think he's a total Patsy. I think they get look-alikes and they got everybody wearing the same outfit. I think he played a role, and I believe that what he did was he picked up clothes and he dumped them behind the ter the Dairy Queen. I think he had a role.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:55

There's only one problem with that theory. Two days later, after Candace said that on Sean Ryan's show, the evidence came out that he was in fact there, that his car was there, that he drove his car, that he's driving around when you can actually see his face. He's walking around, you can see his face. It is clearly him. They are not disputing if it is him or not. Now here is Candace Owens again sharing this video that somehow Ben Shapiro, because he wears a yarmulka, is part of this assassination cabal who killed her quote dear friend. This is Candace, watch this video and timeline and tell me it doesn't chill you. Ben was always too involved in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination for someone who hated Charlie and who clearly, explicitly, and often communicated that he could not stand. His bizarre emotional investment is finally beginning to make sense.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:28

Israel bombed Qatar, which houses a lot of Hamas officials. What happened here? And if I were to introduce just the skeptical question, will this potentially endanger America's own interests in the Middle East? So please, Ben, help me better understand the situation.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:43

If you don't mind, can you just say something about what the day itself was like for you? Yeah. Well it can be brief. Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's so the day before, actually, I had booked an interview for him that he was not super pleased that I booked for him, but it I it was there was a good reason for doing it. But he was he was like, you know what? I'm tired now and I want to focus on the tour tomorrow. So you're gonna you're gonna guest host the show tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:15

Charlie's voice is not silent. We're gonna pick up that bloodstained microphone where Charlie left it. You know, we couldn't be, frankly, more honored to join you guys as much as we can at the fight.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:28

Thank you for that, and thank you for donating the Daily Wire a million dollars. Breaking news on this show. Thank you guys for honoring Charlie so well today. God bless you.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:37

For example, Candace Owens. I think that what Candace Owens is doing right now is evil. It is evil what she is doing right now.

SPEAKER_15 1:04:44

Okay, and I say that again, but what what because I didn't opine on whether it's evil or not, but my my position is it's really none of my business.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:53

And why is it I I have a question. What why is it none of your business? I mean, you you you comment on these things for a living.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:58

I'm not mother of the internet.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:59

No, but you but if this were on the left and somebody were accusing Charlie Kirk of his wife having murdered him, I assume that you would be talking about it.

SPEAKER_15 1:05:06

Is that what Candace is accusing Erica of?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:09

When Candace Owen says, I don't know no, but I know that is retarded. And we are all more retarded for having heard it.

SPEAKER_16 1:05:17

Follow a hive mind, yes, Queen. Underground communists. Mormons live in Utah. I watched the Secret Lives of Mormon wives. I know what's going on here.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:26

After all, your personal business is our business, is our motto. Egyptian air.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:36

I need to take a breath here. Because what I'm about to discuss is significantly more serious and truly troubling. Candace Owens, as you may have heard me refer at the top of the show, is an evil, twisted human being.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:49

At the bottom of that lawsuit from Brian Harpool, it lists a Jacob William Roth, a partner of the firm, who also happens to be Ben Shapiro's brother-in-law.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:57

I remember where I was when all this was happening. I was in Los Angeles. I had sort of a breakfast slash lunch meeting with somebody. And my I got the news that Charlie had been shot, and my security was on the phone with Charlie's security because nobody knew what the hell was going on. Well, Charlie was still in the back of the car, and we were sort of getting updates along the way. Second, there's visual timelines that show Charlie's body being carried to a vehicle within minutes of being shot. Apparently he was still alive at the time. Again, I know that only because my security was talking to his security in the car.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:25

Well, uh yeah, I watched the video. Watch this video and timeline and tell me it doesn't chill you. I mean, I I don't understand. It doesn't make sense to me. But this is what you're dealing with. I mean, and this is what sells. I'm in this business, I know. I could come out here and I could totally twist things and make conspiracy theories about anything and anybody and tie the Jews to Donald Trump's election or the Epstein files. And I'm just, I'm not going to do that. I'm not interested in lying to my audience. I got into this business because I was shut down, and many like me were shut down for telling the truth during the COVID years. I mean, my my every you name it, it's been taken down on my side. Everything and built back up and taken down and built back up and taken down because I'm just resilient. And sometimes that's not very profitable to tell the truth because nobody's really interested. It's not entertaining. To say that this Nitwit Utah half a Mormon kid who is dating this furry friend just grabbed his grandfather's rifle, jumped on the roof, and shot Charlie Kirk. Nobody, it's not interesting. It doesn't sell stories. It doesn't sell clicks. What sells clicks is Tyler Robinson is innocent. Here's why. It wasn't Tyler Robinson. Erica Kirk did it. With the help of Ben Shapiro, who then donated a million dollars to the Daily Wire, which I mean to the turning point USA, which I think was an amazing gesture on their behalf. And, you know, I think that it's a shame. It's a shame that there are people out there that'll be your friends that when you die will use your death to their own financial benefit and they won't care about your family or your children. And that they were just using you the entire time. He dodged a bullet. I mean, I don't know. I guess they were close, they were friends. She helped him date. I guess he really wasn't interested in Candace. I think Candace is a little bit salty that she got fired from Turning Point USA and the Daily Wire, which makes sense that these are the people she's attacking, the people who fired her, that it's retaliatory and that she's taking their tech. She notice how she doesn't post text messages between her and Ben Shapiro, at least none that I know of. It's only Charlie because he's dead and can't defend himself. I think she's a trash pal. I think she definitely has some sort of personality disorder. And, you know, she's she's gonna continue to do what she's doing. The trial of Tyler Robinson is going to continue. It's going to happen. There's an incredibly high probability that he gets convicted of this, and there's a possibility that he gets the death penalty. There's a possibility after this trial, this pretrial, that he just pleads guilty and takes life in prison without parole. That's a pro that's definitely a possibility. But McCandice will continue. And the problem is that once Tyler Robinson is convicted, Erica Kirk is exonerated in the eyes of the civil law. Somebody was persecuted for this. Erica Kirk is not, she's not a politician, she's not a public figure. I mean, she wasn't at the time of Charlie's death, maybe now she is. So she doesn't have that much of a say. She doesn't have the pr protection of certain public figures do from scrutiny. You know, like Donald Trump can't really turn around and sue me if I if I don't like what he's what he if I say things about him he doesn't like. He's a politician, he's a public figure. You're open to scrutiny that way. But what you're gonna get, what you're gonna get, and I have dollars to donuts, Tyru Robinson is convicted, you're gonna see a massive lawsuit filed against Candace Owens. From Turning Point USA, Erica Kirk. They're probably Ben Shapiro's talking about it with Erica Kirk behind the scenes now, and they're getting it ready. And they're roping Candace in, say what you want, Candace, say what you want. But she has definitely caused significant and severe emotional and financial damage to not only Erica Kirk but her children. You don't think Erica Kirk goes around and is ridiculed in public and accused of killing her husband in public because of Candace Owens? Think again. Because that's exactly what's happening. And that's worth millions and millions of dollars. Because you can't unring the bell that Candace has put out there with no evidence, by the way. With oh, there's there's a they they said they were using bandages, but there's no bandages there. It's like, yeah, they they said they put Charlie Kirk's socks on, but his socks are not in the vehicle. Well, no, they he the his socks went with him when he went inside the hospital, along with the bandages. It's nonsensical. You know, and yeah, it's disappointing because it's hard to trust people. You know, it makes you think if she can do this to to Candace, if Candace can do this to Erica Kirk and their family, you know, how many people in your own life would do this to you? I mean, look look at the videos of them together. Of Charlie and Candace dancing and laughing and having a grand old time. And now she stands on his on his grave and asks for Erica accusing Erica Kirk because her she calls her grandfather by the wrong name. Got a couple of comments here. Is she really that dense or isn't is an enact? I think it's one of two things. First of all, she is not highly intelligent. She is not highly intelligent. You can tell by the way that she speaks. I think she has a certain level of EQ, which is emotional intelligence, where she knows if she says a certain thing, people are going to react a certain way. And that's precisely what she's doing by manipulating the masses. I think that maybe she has convinced herself that certain things are true and she lives in paranoia. For example, this is an actual this situation that actually happened. Erica Kirk came out and said, please stop. Please stop making these false allegations. Please stop hurting my family. My husband is dead. We are all devastated. Please leave us alone and please stop this madness. Candace continued. Said she would stop. If Erica Kirk asked me to stop, I would stop. Erica Kirk asked her to stop on three separate occasions. She didn't. Erica Kirk reached out and said, I want to sit down with you. I want to meet with you, and I want to talk about this. And Candace said, okay. Then she backed out because she was afraid that Erica Kirk was going to poison her drinks. So I think she's not very intelligent. She's not. Jumping down these conspiracy theories like this is not a sign of real and true intelligence. It's just, it's not. Um, there are certain things, conspiracy theories that are very intriguing. This is not one of them. I mean, there's just nothing there. There's just nothing there. So I think that she has kind of convinced herself that it is true and that she's a little bit paranoid. I think her mental health is slipping. I think it's sliding away slowly. I think that she is in some emotional trouble. I think she's in the middle of a mental health crisis. And listen, maybe she was close to Charlie Kirk. Maybe they were really good friends. And maybe this assassination is so traumatic for her because not only does she know him, but she's also behind a microphone at a at almost the level that he was, and now she's paranoid it's going to happen to her too. So she's trying to expose it, and she's looking for this boogeyman and this in this and this ghost that isn't there. I think it could be a couple of few things. I think you know that you're benefiting from it financially. So you continue. Frederick Baldwin, welcome to the show, man. Thanks for being here. Maybe she is trying to taint the jurors. She's definitely trying to be involved in this defense. I mean, there is a clip of clip after clip after clip of her saying, I wish Tyler Robinson's defense would team would reach out to me. Why won't they reach out to me? I'm the person with all the information. I have this file. I have that. She doesn't have anything. She's an idiot sitting behind a laptop. The Tyler Robinson's defense is not going to go anywhere near Candace Owens. They're not going to present to a jury that mysterious Jewish people hired by Ben Shapiro and Erica Kirk put plastic in the car and they didn't use gauze, and everybody on the security team was involved in it. And then there was a trapdoor with a secret tunnel that led back to Tel Aviv. They're not going to go anywhere near Candace Owens. The only relevant thing about Candace Owens that is going to be done in this trial is one thing. And that is going to be questions on how the defense selects their jurors. Do you know who Turning Point USA is? Have you ever been to a Turning Point USA event? Do you like to listen to music? Oh, you like to listen to radio, right? Talk radio. Oh, okay. What talk radio do you like? Oh, okay. You like Candace Owens? Yeah, I listen to her too. She'll do. Juror number two. That's the people they're going to be looking for. That's because that's the only way he's going to get out of it. It's going to be who the jury is. The jury's making the decision on whether he's guilty or he's not guilty. And that's it. They're going to go. Is that like this is prosecutions do this too. They get in a huddle and they go, who do we need? We need idiots. Okay. What type of idiots do we need? They don't want smart people on juries. They don't want free-thinking, independent people on juries who can actually analyze evidence and make decisions for themselves. They don't want that. They don't like that. They want people who already have like a predetermined position. That's why, you know, the number one job that gets excused from juries is police officer, attorney. Somebody he already knows how to investigate things, who's not going to fall for the smoke and mirrors and the cloak and daggers, and who's actually going to look at it and go, this guy's this is nonsense. This guy did this. Let's get out of here. And I'm not insulting you if you watch Candace. I mean, I guess I kind of am. I I don't think you should. I don't think it's good for your brain. I mean, watch it. But man, think for yourself, dude. Because she shows you a couple of pieces of glass sitting in the back of an SUD, SUV does not conclude the fact that his microphone exploded. It just says that there's pieces of glass. It could be anything. What kind of glass is it? Did you test it? Is it tempered glass? Is it actually plastic? Is it somebody's sunglasses that were stepped on? I mean, what is it? But that I mean, that's what she does. She circumvents the whole process and just goes, Oh no. There's glass. His microphone has glass in it. Therefore, his microphone exploded. That's the only explanation. But how did it get in the SUV? If the microphone exploded in his chair sitting in the middle of the courtyard, wouldn't the glass be on there if it exploded there? How did it equate to being winding up in his SUV? These are questions that, of course, she doesn't answer. She skips that part and goes directly to the conclusion and then portrays it onto her audience as if it's a fact. And she's, you know, she my unknown source. In this business, I could do that all day long. I could do that right now. I have a source that works in the White House, and they said that Donald Trump has this terminal illness. His ankles are swelling. We've seen it. We've seen his ankles swell. We've seen him get a little bit, he's sweating when he's golfing. We've seen the sweat drip down. And my source tells me that he is months away from his own demise. And the White House is hiding it. I just made that up right now. Without preparing, without building, without adding video into it. It's easy to manipulate people through propaganda. I mean, people have been doing it for decades, years. I mean, there is a very slim chance that Tyler Robinson is not going to get convicted. I think they're going to sue Candace the second this happens. And honestly, I'm for 100% for free speech, but I do think she's kind of got it coming, dude. She's kind of got it coming. I think she needs to take a step back and maybe say, you know, I I've looked at it. I don't think Erica was involved. I may maybe save a little phase for her little furry audience and say, I don't think Erica was involved, but I do still think somebody was totally involved. My source tells me Erica Kirk did not do it. She didn't do it. That's the only thing that's going to save her. Thank you guys for tuning in, Shelly. She is hurting people. Yeah, she's she's hurting people. And she knows it too. That's the other thing. She doesn't care. It's malicious, it's intentional to generate income for herself. She wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't making her a ton of money. I mean, we're talking about it here all day long. And I think we have, yeah, we have 15, we have 15,000 people on tonight across all platforms, on and off. 15,000 people. That's just here. The live show. And then I'll stop the live show, and then people will continue to watch the live show on YouTube, Rumble, X, Facebook, Kick, Vimeo, wherever. And then they will look at Candace Owens' stuff. And then other podcasters are doing the same thing. Ben Shapiro's and it's just she's the number one story in the country. That's why we're talking about it. And then she gets book deals. She gets booked on Sean Ryan's podcast. She sells merchandise, and more and more people get sucked into the nonsense. The only reason you believe Candace Owens is because that's what you want to believe. There's nothing to bring it to the table. But she has conveniently set it up to be to say anyone who opposes me, or these podcasters who oppose me, they're all getting paid $7,000 each from the Jews. Legitimately. That's why every time I post about Candace Candace Owens, oh, her little minions go, oh, would you get your $7,000? I was like, no, I didn't. I didn't get my $10 from the Jews. I got nothing. Appreciate it. They want to write me a check for seven grand. I'll take it, but I will still sell the truth. Tell the truth. Thank you so much for tuning in. Don't forget to hit that like, share, and subscribe button. Make sure you go to RyanFsamuels.com. Go to the news section. I'm going to publish. I've been worked on an article today. I'm going to publish a new article. Subscribe to the blog. I mean, what are you doing? Subscribe to the news article. Get news to your phone immediately. For free. 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