DOJ Considers Banning Transgender People from Owning Guns

In this episode of The Ryan Samuels Show, conservative commentator Ryan Samuels dives into the breaking news from the Department of Justice: early-stage discussions on restricting firearm ownership for transgender individuals, potentially by classifying gender dysphoria as a disqualifying mental condition under federal law. Triggered by the recent Minneapolis Catholic school shooting carried out by a transgender suspect, Samuels analyzes the Trump administration's proposal amid backlash from gun rights groups like the NRA and LGBTQ advocates. He explores the tension between Second Amendment protections and public safety, questions the evidence linking transgender identity to violence (noting data shows such incidents are rare, with only about 0.1% of mass shootings involving transgender perpetrators), and debates the slippery slope of group-based gun bans. Endorsed by voices like Donald Trump Jr. and Ted Nugent, this episode covers the political fallout, constitutional challenges, and why Samuels sees this as a flawed scapegoating tactic rather than real gun control refor

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Transcript

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Yeah.
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We are here.
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What?
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Hello, patriots.
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Welcome to the show.

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We got some news in the air.
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I don't know if it is serious at all.
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I really have no clue if it's serious.
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I don't think that it's serious.
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It could be.

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You never know with Donald Trump in this administration.
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You you really and truly have no idea what is going on, what they're gonna do, what they're legitimate about, and what they're just stoking the fires with.
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Now recently, the news and the headlines have come out that the Department of Justice is gonna take steps to outlaw, weapons purchases for transgender individuals.
00:03:42 [Speaker 1]
I'm confused for a couple reasons.
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The first thing I'm confused about is if if they're gonna do it through executive order, number one, the president of The United States does not make law.

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He did yeah.
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He has some power with executive orders, but it's not what you think it is.
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It's not law.
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He can change federal policies and things of that nature.
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So I don't know how they're gonna get this done without legislating it through Congress.

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I don't know how the Republican Party is going to take a stand and regulate and implement one of the most intense and, discriminatory, frankly, gun control measures in the history of America.
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How is the Republican Party going to do that and get away with it?
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Or is this just another attempt by the Donald Trump administration to send the Liberals off the edge and now start supporting gun rights?
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Now there is an argument here, and this has been an argument that people on the left and the people on the right have had, and have actually agreed on.
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Should mentally ill people own guns?

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I think that the majority of Americans would agree that, no, they should not.
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The problem is is that's a great theoretical statement, and that's an that's an awesome theory.
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But who determines if somebody is mentally ill?
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And and what system do we use to make sure that mentally ill people cannot purchase firearms?
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Is it a blacklist that FFLs have?

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Is it is it politicians that pass a law?
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And who determines the level of mental illness?
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Because for years, years, decades, this has been the standard.
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This is the Diagnostic and Statistic Manual of Mental Disorders.
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This this book is the first book well, the one of the first episodes I ever did on this show about gender dysphoria.

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I got this in college.
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I was a psychology major in my undergrad, double psychology and sociology.
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And when when they talk about trans people, what they're talking about is gender dysphoria, except there's a distinction between trans people and gender dysphoria in the in the book of mental illness.
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Right?
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The the diagnostic and statistics manual were on the fifth edition of mental illness.

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There there's a difference.
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Gender dysphoria people act I'm gonna read from it.
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I'm gonna read from it.
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But there's something significantly different than, between an individual who firmly believes in their hearted hearts, in their core that they are the other gender, And somebody who just likes to wear a dress and pretend they're a woman.
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There's a difference.

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They're not both the same person.
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So who makes the distinction between that?
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And is it somebody who identifies as somebody of another gender?
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Do they have to have hormone injections?
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Or do they have to have a certain level of transition?

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How are you even gonna determine that?
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How are you gonna determine that?
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It it it's it's, it's a very not likely that this is going to be something that seriously goes through.
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But let's play for a second that hypothetically it is.
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That hypothetically, the United States federal government is trying to disarm a population from owning firearms, who 99.9% are all on the left side of the aisle.

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Is that something we should be doing?
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I understand the argument that it's a mental illness, but not all mental illnesses are dangerous.
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Their their mental illness is very common in this country.
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For example, sociopathy is very common in in this country.
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Psychopathy is very common in this country.

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These are people who have zero zero emotion, connection to love.
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They don't even love their own children.
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The this is, this is common in this country.
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You don't know it.
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You don't see it.

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You you don't you don't experience it for who they are, but they exist.
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They they're prominently in in in industries like the they're corporate executives a lot of the time.
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They don't care about anybody else for their self.
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Narcissistic personality disorder, borderline personality disorder.
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Like, these people sometimes don't have a feelings or emotions or love or care for other people and only care about themselves.

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But that does not mean that they're going to kill people if they get their hands on a firearm.
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Post traumatic stress disorder, PTSD.
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Police officers, firefighters, EMTs, paramedics, military veterans, very common.
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Doesn't mean you're dangerous.
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These are all considered mental disorders.

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So if gender dysphoria is one or cross dressing is one, then how can you make it law that these people can't have guns, but the rest of the people with mental disorders can get firearms?
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How is that gonna happen?
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Now, the the DSM five kinda works like this.
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Right?
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A psychiatrist or a therapist, they wanna diagnose their patient.

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They through their education and experience, they feel that this person may be suffering from x disorder.
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They open up the book, they go to the disorder on the page, and then they find out the qualifying factors.
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So this is gender dysphoria in children.
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Okay?
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A strong desire to be one of the other gender or an instance that one is the other gender or some alternative gender different from assigned gender.

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In boys, I love how it says in boys and not in whatever.
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In boys, a strong preference for cross dressing or simulating female attire, or in girls, assigned gender, a strong preference for wearing only typical masculine clothing and strong resistance to the wearing of typical feminine clothing.
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That could just be a tomboy.
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A strong preference for for cross gender roles in making belief play or fantasy play, a strong preference for toys, games, or activities stereotypically used for the other gender, a strong preference for playmates for the other gender.
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So this is somebody that I want you to understand this, and I'm reading this to you so that you understand this.

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The the criteria is not violence.
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There there's no criteria in gender dysphoria that suggests that these people are prone to violence.
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It's not homicidal thoughts, school shooting thoughts.
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None of the the these things are are in the diagnostic and statistics manual that would diagnose you with gender dysphoria, but from the American Psychiatric Association.
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Now, yes, it is a mental disorder.

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It is.
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I'm not saying that it's not.
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But what you need to understand, as the listener, is that not all mental disorders are dangerous.
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They're not.
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This is not a a situation where, oh my god, somebody with gender dysphoria is gonna end up in a mental institution.

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That's not how this works.
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Are some of them dangerous?
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Of course.
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Yeah.
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One hundred percent.

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The the day the most dangerous part is when we start injecting them with medicines, with hormones, changing testosterone levels, changing chemical levels inside of the body.
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That is what is is is is altering, behaviors.
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Now the the right to own a firearm is is crystal clear.
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I mean, it's crystal clear.
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It's been reiterated in through every court ruling that has ever existed.

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And it applies to every single citizen regardless of stature or personality or if they like to wear dresses or not.
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You're allowed to have a gun.
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There are plenty of trans people in the world that have guns and don't hurt anybody.
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You know?
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The the this shall not be infringed is is literally the last line.

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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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Is the trans community, are they not people?
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I agree.
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I agree that there are people in the trans community that are homicidal and suicidal.
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One out of every I think it's one out of every four people with gender dysphoria commit suicidal.

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Suicide.
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If they're suicidal, they're homicidal.
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If they're suicidal, you shouldn't be able to have guns if you're that unstable.
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But there are there are plenty of cross gestures out there that are perfectly fine, that go to be firefighters.
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They're firefighters at night, and then they crush the rest during the day.

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It happens.
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The cops too, military people.
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Like, it's it's out there.
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I'm not saying that I agree with it or I like it, but it's true, and it doesn't necessarily mean that somebody's violent.
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But the the talking point is to, ban guns for trans people.

00:14:47 [Speaker 1]
Now the the videos are going around.
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This is all obviously stems from the shooter in Minneapolis, which a new video just came out of him purchasing a firearm.
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Let's let's take a look at this.

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It's of evil.
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You know,

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the first time I watched all of this, I literally feel like I have to take a shower afterwards.

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But when Robin Westman walked into this gun shop just days before shooting and killing children in Minneapolis

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We are devastated by this.

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Owner Corey Krause says there were none of the classic warning signs.

00:15:24 [Speaker 3]
He was friendly.
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He was jovial.
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He smiled, laughed, asked questions.
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He interacted with three of our staff in a friendly manner.

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Cameras at Frontiersman Sports in Saint Louis Park first recorded the would be shooter just after 12:30PM the Saturday before the attack.
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Wearing a shirt with a place for well-being on the pack, they spent forty minutes browsing, holding, and aiming a wide variety of guns.
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At one point, even speaking with a fellow customer.
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None of the behaviors Krause says his staff is trained to look out for.

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What could I have done?
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What could I have, caught?
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There was nothing.

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These are still questions you ask yourself.

00:16:05 [Speaker 3]
Because he had three layers of seasoned veteran, employees that know this stuff, and they can sniff this stuff out from a mile away.

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Krauss says the shooter did not get any of the guns or ammunition used in the attack from his store, ultimately presenting a valid permit to

00:16:27 [Speaker 1]
There there's no signs.
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So so what what are you supposed to do?
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You can't get rid of the guns.
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The guns are here to stay.
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It's not logical to get rid of the guns.

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We tried it with drugs.
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We we got rid of all the drugs in the world.
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They're illegal.
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Can't have them.
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They're freaking everywhere.

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They're more relevant than guns are.
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This is him shopping again.
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He didn't buy the guns he used in a school shooting there.
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But, for what they're saying is that he was just normal and no problem, and they didn't see any signs.
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Typically, you don't see any signs in these types of situations.

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You see this a lot with serial killers or murderers.
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They they they have a wife for twenty, thirty years, and the wife has no idea when the cops come knocking on the door.
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He just looks like a normal person.
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Were were there any signs that his family knew anything?
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I mean, I don't know.

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He looks normal to me besides the scrunchie in his hair.
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That's a little weird.
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But, of course, the the the trans community does have issues.
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Okay?
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Here well, let's do this first.

00:18:09 [Speaker 1]
Here's Jesse Waters talking about about, the the guy going into Robin Washington.

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Try less.
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Minneapolis trans shooter, shopping for guns just days before the massacre.
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He bought a 38 special revolver, which wasn't used in the attack.
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The guy who sold it to him says he didn't see any red flags.

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This person said all the right things.
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They they checked all the right boxes, asked all the right questions.
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They were friendly, talkative, making jokes, laughing.
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The person just did not fit the profile whatsoever.

00:18:48 [Speaker 1]
So how are you supposed to ban these people?
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How are you supposed to do that?
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It doesn't make any sense.
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And, of course, there there are videos going across the country of, you know, violent trans people.
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They're out there.

00:19:08 [Speaker 1]
They are.
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They they they are.
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But this this is a problem that it's almost unsolvable.
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It's a very hard thing to solve.
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You you cannot restrict the rights of gun owning Americans.

00:19:24 [Speaker 1]
It is an inherent right that you have to own and possess firearms no matter who you are.
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No matter who you are.
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Now you can forfeit those rights when you violate the rights of another.
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K?
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Trans people, just by being trans, did not violate the rights of another.

00:19:46 [Speaker 1]
If you commit an armed robbery, you violated the rights of another or forcible felony.
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If you commit committed a kidnapping, you violated the rights of another, then you forfeit your your your second amendment right to own a firearm.
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That's the difference.
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But, I mean, of course, the this is the conversation.
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And and the right is trying to I swear, the the world is the world is is a twilight zone because the right is trying to do gun control and the left is trying to stop it.

00:20:27 [Speaker 1]
What is happening?

00:20:29 [Speaker 5]
The justice department is reportedly considering banning transgender individuals from owning firearms following a recent shooting.

00:20:36 [Speaker 6]
As this tragedy at Annunciation Catholic Church makes clear, there is still so much more that must be done.
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We cannot rest when gun violence remains the leading cause of deaths of kids and teenagers.

00:20:51 [Speaker 1]
That's not true.
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We'll cover that when this is done.

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We cannot rest when there have been over 90 school shootings in this country in 2025 alone.

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The proposal follows the Minneapolis shooting at a Catholic school.
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Conservative commentators have expressed support, citing concerns about violence.
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However, the move could face legal challenges and has been criticized as discriminatory.
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The DOJ is consulting officials on the legality of such a ban if it were to be created.
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The justice department is

00:21:20 [Speaker 1]
The the next administration that gets in is gonna ban veterans with PTSD if they open the door for this.
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And, you know, videos are circulating of all the trannies.
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Right?
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Let's listen to this one of all the violence.

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Harder, but you need to try less being like somebody you're not and start to humble yourself and be somebody that God made you to be.
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He didn't make a man to be a woman.
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He made the man to be a man.
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He didn't make the woman to be a man.
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He made the woman to be a woman, and this is the truth.

00:21:58 [Speaker 1]
What are

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you gonna do?
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Come attack me now?

00:22:01 [Speaker 7]
I should.

00:22:03 [Speaker 8]
Hey, man.
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It's up to

00:22:04 [Speaker 1]
I don't know if that's I I So this this trans person is porting a bond a a gun at this, at this preacher.
00:22:16 [Speaker 1]
I mean, this looks like it's captain Jack Sparrow's pistol.
00:22:20 [Speaker 1]
I don't really know, like, if he's trying to get the booty or what what he's trying to do here.
00:22:24 [Speaker 1]
But so this is circulating.
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A trans person pulling a gun because words are violent.

00:22:29 [Speaker 8]
It's up

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to you.
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If you wanna pull that on me

00:22:30 [Speaker 8]
but god bless you.
00:22:31 [Speaker 8]
So you just threatened me with a gun.
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You just pulled a gun on my face.
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Man, lord have mercy on you.
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This means that you don't even know who you are.

00:22:39 [Speaker 8]
Nope.
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I still love you.
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Even though you pulled a gun on me, I still love you.

00:22:42 [Speaker 7]
I so bless you.
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Harder.
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But you need to try less being like somebody you're

00:22:50 [Speaker 1]
I I will say they are more susceptible to situations like that because they are mentally ill, but some of them are fine and function fine in society and just wanna pretend to be the opposite sex even though it's not true.
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And the treatment should not be affirming care.
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The treatment should be telling them that you're like this.
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You're wrong.
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You're not a girl.

00:23:12 [Speaker 1]
You're never gonna be a girl.
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Something's going wrong with your ticker.
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We need to fix it.
00:23:16 [Speaker 1]
But here's a compilation of some angry trans people.
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Angry.

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Go out buy a gun.
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It's okay to be angry.

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Get out of my face now.
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If you try to stop me from

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going into a woman's bathroom.
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Excuse me, it's ma'am.

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Be the last mistake you ever make.

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It is ma'am.

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Find that anger.

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Just for those people.
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Hey.

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Harness it to do good in the world.
00:23:52 [Speaker 10]
This anger I

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believe that's not acceptable.
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Done, man.
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We can just make a fucking bat to see that some of us will.

00:24:00 [Speaker 10]
Anger is probably my primary source of motivation.

00:24:05 [Speaker 8]
You wanna call me for a gift?

00:24:06 [Speaker 5]
The thing is you

00:24:07 [Speaker 11]
don't have to leave.

00:24:08 [Speaker 9]
You won't lose your face.

00:24:09 [Speaker 10]
For everything that I do.

00:24:11 [Speaker 1]
Cut that out now or you'll go home in an ambulance.

00:24:14 [Speaker 8]
I'll you up.
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It was a call to action or

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a call

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to arms.
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It's

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not.
00:24:18 [Speaker 8]
It's not.
00:24:19 [Speaker 8]
It's not.
00:24:19 [Speaker 8]
It's not.
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It's not.

00:24:22 [Speaker 8]
It's not.

00:24:25 [Speaker 1]
Don't be afraid to show your anger.
00:24:40 [Speaker 1]
Now a lot of this is political rhetoric.
00:24:46 [Speaker 1]
The reason they're acting out this way, the reason that they are behaving this way is because they are mentally ill, but they've been manipulated by a political party that uses the mentally ill for their advantage.
00:25:05 [Speaker 1]
They're u they use them as useful idiots.
00:25:07 [Speaker 1]
Go out and protest.

00:25:09 [Speaker 1]
Yell at the people on the street praising god.
00:25:14 [Speaker 1]
Anybody who opposes what you think or feel is an animal that needs to be stopped.
00:25:20 [Speaker 1]
They're violent.
00:25:21 [Speaker 1]
Their words are violent.
00:25:22 [Speaker 1]
They use them as their army to protest anything.

00:25:29 [Speaker 1]
They they use their their their weak minds, and they manipulate them, and they call them to violence.
00:25:38 [Speaker 1]
I mean, we've seen it all all the time.
00:25:40 [Speaker 1]
We see it all the time.
00:25:42 [Speaker 1]
You know, Maxine Waters, you find them and you tell them and you get in their face.
00:25:48 [Speaker 1]
I mean, our our politics, particularly the left's violence is completely out of control.

00:25:55 [Speaker 1]
Completely out of control.

00:26:01 [Speaker 9]
So right now, I wanna talk about my experience as a trans woman, going

00:26:07 [Speaker 1]
You are a full blown man, dude.
00:26:11 [Speaker 1]
How hard is it for a therapist just to say that?
00:26:14 [Speaker 1]
I understand how you feel.
00:26:16 [Speaker 1]
I understand that you have certain feelings inside of you, but they are not real, and you need to come to terms with that.

00:26:28 [Speaker 9]
To the spa.
00:26:31 [Speaker 9]
I'm not gonna mention the specific spa I'm at for safety reasons.
00:26:38 [Speaker 9]
They have been pretty accommodating.
00:26:41 [Speaker 9]
I wouldn't even say accommodating.
00:26:43 [Speaker 9]
I would say accepting of my gender identity.

00:26:47 [Speaker 9]
And I don't want that to change if I let the, Internet know where I've been able to be safe as a trans woman.
00:26:59 [Speaker 9]
Anyway, I have been to this spa before.
00:27:04 [Speaker 9]
The first time I was here, I was the only one here when I showed up, and the woman asked me.
00:27:12 [Speaker 9]
And I and I think I have my hoops in and but I probably had, like, around the same amount of facial hair I have now.
00:27:20 [Speaker 9]
I didn't have lip gloss or anything.

00:27:21 [Speaker 9]
I don't think I had lip gloss on that.
00:27:23 [Speaker 9]
But I I'm pretty sure I had my hoops in or I had earrings in.

00:27:28 [Speaker 1]
Okay.

00:27:28 [Speaker 10]
And I

00:27:28 [Speaker 9]
had some facial hair.
00:27:30 [Speaker 9]
And that first time, the woman asked me, which locker room, what gender you identify with.
00:27:36 [Speaker 9]
And I said, I'm a woman.
00:27:38 [Speaker 9]
I identify as a woman.
00:27:39 [Speaker 9]
And then she took me to the female locker room.

00:27:42 [Speaker 1]
That's interesting.

00:27:42 [Speaker 9]
And that was the first time I had been in a female locker room.
00:27:47 [Speaker 9]
And it was so humanizing because it was set up to humanize.

00:27:56 [Speaker 1]
What the what are you talking about?
00:28:00 [Speaker 1]
What the hell were you talking about?
00:28:03 [Speaker 1]
What what do you mean humanizing?
00:28:09 [Speaker 1]
What on God's green earth are you talking about?

00:28:13 [Speaker 5]
The

00:28:23 [Speaker 1]
the the the force to accept the delusion and then people resisting the force to protect the delusion is what is causing the violence from the left.
00:28:35 [Speaker 1]
Here is a clip from MSNBC.
00:28:39 [Speaker 1]
I haven't watched it.
00:28:40 [Speaker 1]
I try not to watch clips.
00:28:41 [Speaker 1]
Sometimes I watch them.

00:28:42 [Speaker 1]
This, I have not watched.
00:28:44 [Speaker 1]
It's about the potential ban on trans guns.

00:28:46 [Speaker 5]
According to new reporting from the Washington Post, the Trump administration is considering preventing transgender people from owning guns.
00:28:53 [Speaker 5]
This is in the wake of the shooting last week at a Minneapolis Catholic school.
00:28:58 [Speaker 5]
A spokesperson tells NBC News, quote, the DOJ is actively evaluating options to prevent the pattern of violence we've seen from individuals with specific mental health challenges and substance abuse disorders.
00:29:12 [Speaker 5]
Joining us now, senior staff writer at The Trace and contributing writer at Rolling Stone, Mike Spies.
00:29:17 [Speaker 5]
Mike, I wanted to have you back to talk about this because last week in the wake of the shooting and the moments after the shooting, we had you on and we had a a just quite a lively discussion here about what it's gonna take to stop gun violence.

00:29:30 [Speaker 5]
And on the one hand, you had someone bringing up that this person, was transgender or they had gender issues, gender dysmorphia, and there that's happened before.

00:29:41 [Speaker 1]
It's not gender dysmorphia.
00:29:44 [Speaker 1]
It's gender dysphoria, idiot.
00:29:48 [Speaker 1]
There's a body dysmorphic disorder where people look in a mirror and they weigh eighty pounds, but they see themselves as a very fat person, but they really see themselves, to be fat, which I think I think most of that that that is BS.
00:30:02 [Speaker 1]
I I'm not even gonna get into the mental disorders and and how like, like, I don't believe that somebody firmly believes that they're a woman inside.
00:30:10 [Speaker 1]
I think people act out, and they do things for attention when they're depressed.

00:30:16 [Speaker 1]
And sometimes, the more depressed they are, the more attention they seek, the more drastic their measures are.
00:30:23 [Speaker 1]
That's just my personal opinion, but I'm not a psychiatrist or anything.

00:30:27 [Speaker 5]
Or in their targeting, religious schools, and that's dysphoria.
00:30:31 [Speaker 5]
Excuse me.
00:30:32 [Speaker 5]
Then that's, that's part of the problem here.
00:30:34 [Speaker 5]
And then you had someone else saying that it's a much broader problem than than that.
00:30:38 [Speaker 5]
It's everybody.

00:30:40 [Speaker 5]
Is it surprising to you that this administration is now trying to go after, you know, a a subset of the American population?

00:30:47 [Speaker 12]
Well, I think it's not super surprising because in part, the administration already has a thing with respect to trans people in the first place.
00:30:55 [Speaker 12]
And then it it's just generally been the Republican move for many years now in the wake of a mass shooting to, like,

00:31:01 [Speaker 8]
you To latch

00:31:02 [Speaker 5]
on the specifics of that Right.
00:31:03 [Speaker 5]
Of that person to try to say I'm afraid in Springfield.
00:31:06 [Speaker 5]
Not the guns.

00:31:07 [Speaker 12]
Exactly.
00:31:07 [Speaker 12]
Unless it's well,

00:31:08 [Speaker 1]
the guns didn't freaking do anything.
00:31:12 [Speaker 1]
That's such a piss poor argument.

00:31:14 [Speaker 12]
Especially if the person is not advantageous to some other kind of narrative they want to advance.
00:31:18 [Speaker 12]
So, again, we're talking about banning trans people from owning guns, which is insane, obviously, because there's no indicator at all that anyone who falls into that category is more likely to carry out a mass shooting.
00:31:29 [Speaker 12]
So that I mean, that's just an obvious thing to say.
00:31:32 [Speaker 12]
But in general, mass shootings have been carried out by way more white supremacists, for example, a vowed white supremacists.

00:31:39 [Speaker 1]
That's not true either.
00:31:43 [Speaker 1]
I mean, that that's not true.
00:31:44 [Speaker 1]
That the majority are carry up by white supremacists.
00:31:48 [Speaker 1]
I think the school shooting not the school, the church shooting was one, maybe.
00:31:53 [Speaker 1]
I mean, these people think everything's a white supremacist.

00:31:56 [Speaker 1]
Everybody's a white supremacist.

00:31:58 [Speaker 12]
Then then trans people.
00:31:59 [Speaker 12]
No one was ever talking about banning white supremacists from owning firearms.
00:32:02 [Speaker 12]
And that means, like, Dylann Roof, who carried out the Emanuel shooting in, Charleston back in 2015, the Walmart shooting in El Paso, the Buffalo shooting at the supermarket.
00:32:13 [Speaker 12]
I could go, like, on and on and on here.
00:32:15 [Speaker 12]
And the common thread throughout all of those is is is a vowed white supremacy.

00:32:20 [Speaker 5]
But we haven't heard any, desire.

00:32:24 [Speaker 1]
There's been plenty of trans, non binary, LGB two q plus shooters.
00:32:32 [Speaker 1]
Plut like, plenty of them.
00:32:34 [Speaker 1]
I think, like, nine I can count.
00:32:38 [Speaker 1]
So, like, that I mean, but that that's my point.
00:32:43 [Speaker 1]
I I disagree with this move.

00:32:44 [Speaker 1]
I don't think that they're going to do it.
00:32:46 [Speaker 1]
I don't think they're going to be able to do it.
00:32:49 [Speaker 1]
I think it's a way for them to get the left to contradict themselves on guns.

00:32:55 [Speaker 5]
Any, sources saying that they wanna ban white supremacists from owning weapons?

00:32:59 [Speaker 12]
None.
00:32:59 [Speaker 12]
And, actually, there's another funny thing too.
00:33:01 [Speaker 12]
We're only talking about mass shootings here, but, like, let's look at a different category of gun violence.
00:33:06 [Speaker 12]
Most gun death, year in and year out, is gun suicide.
00:33:10 [Speaker 12]
Usually, like, around sixty percent.

00:33:12 [Speaker 12]
And every single year, eighty percent of gun suicides

00:33:16 [Speaker 1]
Now do black people.
00:33:19 [Speaker 1]
Oh, you won't?
00:33:20 [Speaker 1]
Oh, okay.

00:33:21 [Speaker 12]
Eighty percent are carried out by specifically white men.
00:33:26 [Speaker 12]
And white men only represents 30% of the American population.
00:33:29 [Speaker 12]
That's like a wildly disproportionate figure.
00:33:32 [Speaker 12]
So if you wanted to that would be like saying if you wanna greatly reduce gun suicide, let's say by 80%, ban all white people from owning ban all white men specifically from owning firearms.
00:33:42 [Speaker 12]
Is that an idea that we're willing to entertain and for?

00:33:44 [Speaker 5]
It is interesting because

00:33:46 [Speaker 1]
But that's a poor argument because the argument that the Trump administration is making is that it's a mental disorder and that they're mentally ill.
00:33:54 [Speaker 1]
So they wanna ban mentally ill people from having firearms, not be by being white doesn't mean that you're mentally ill.
00:34:02 [Speaker 1]
So the, like, the the left just can't argue.
00:34:06 [Speaker 1]
They can't come up with a logical sound arguments because everything they do is emotional.
00:34:10 [Speaker 1]
I disagree with the Trump administration, not because I think it's a bad idea, but because the you know, this is a violation of your rights as a citizen.

00:34:24 [Speaker 1]
You you know, red flag laws are are nightmare.
00:34:26 [Speaker 1]
They're they're not gonna work.
00:34:28 [Speaker 1]
They're they're just gonna give politicians and other people power over the individual that they don't deserve to have.
00:34:35 [Speaker 1]
The best way to stop gun violence is to carry a gun.
00:34:39 [Speaker 1]
Carry one.

00:34:41 [Speaker 1]
It won't hurt you to bring it with you.
00:34:42 [Speaker 1]
Just be responsible with it.
00:34:44 [Speaker 1]
Take a class.
00:34:45 [Speaker 1]
Get your concealed weapons permit.
00:34:47 [Speaker 1]
If you live in a state that doesn't allow you to have one, get the hell out of there.

00:34:53 [Speaker 1]
Guns are a part of our life.
00:34:55 [Speaker 1]
They're a part of American culture.
00:34:57 [Speaker 1]
There's, like, three times as many guns as The United States as there are human beings.
00:35:04 [Speaker 1]
And the the whole point of having them is to protect yourself against tyrannical government.

00:35:11 [Speaker 5]
When you're talking about the second amendment, usually, the argument is you can't go anywhere near banning groups of people from owning a gun because that would be a violation of their second amendment rights.
00:35:22 [Speaker 5]
It almost made me wonder whether this was a trial balloon for the administration, either to to see how the public might react to it, how the second amendment, supporters might react to it, or or to just put it out there that they they're thinking about it, and they and they know what the problem is, and they wanna do something about it.

00:35:41 [Speaker 12]
Right.
00:35:41 [Speaker 12]
It's it's hard to tell.
00:35:43 [Speaker 12]
The I mean, it's definitely the case that some gun rights groups, like the very hard line gun owners of America, already put out a statement saying that they're opposed to the ban, because I think there's a clear understanding that any ban is discretionary.
00:35:56 [Speaker 12]
So, like, per just what we were talking about, again,

00:35:59 [Speaker 5]
if If they do it for transgender people, the next administration could do it for white men because they're already Correct.

00:36:05 [Speaker 12]
Exactly.
00:36:05 [Speaker 12]
Yep.
00:36:05 [Speaker 12]
Or just whatever what are the main indicators for

00:36:09 [Speaker 5]
Let's let's move this to the side.
00:36:10 [Speaker 5]
What would what would stop this sort of gun violence?
00:36:13 [Speaker 5]
Well, if we're,

00:36:13 [Speaker 12]
again, if we're gonna if we're gonna take Live in the reality we live in.
00:36:16 [Speaker 12]
We're gonna live in the reality, which is, you know, take banning semiautomatic weapons.
00:36:22 [Speaker 12]
We won't talk about that because that's a

00:36:24 [Speaker 1]
A semiautomatic weapon is every weapon that's available.
00:36:27 [Speaker 1]
So the only thing you'll be able to have is a bolt action rifle.
00:36:32 [Speaker 1]
That's not like, you don't know anything about guns, dude.
00:36:35 [Speaker 1]
If you did, you wouldn't be okay with banning them.
00:36:38 [Speaker 1]
I mean, that that's that's that's the thing is that that these freaking lefties people don't know shit about guns, dude.

00:36:49 [Speaker 1]
They don't know anything about them.
00:36:50 [Speaker 1]
They've never been around them.
00:36:51 [Speaker 1]
They talk about them, like, just completely wrong.
00:36:54 [Speaker 1]
Just, oh, but don't talk about banning semiautomatics.
00:36:56 [Speaker 1]
Like, a pistol is semiautomatic.

00:36:58 [Speaker 1]
A revolver is semiautomatic.
00:37:00 [Speaker 1]
So the only thing you wanna keep around are bolt action rifles or single ammo loading rifles.
00:37:09 [Speaker 1]
You're scared of the thing you don't understand, leftists.

00:37:13 [Speaker 12]
Third rail.
00:37:14 [Speaker 12]
But if if you want to make a big difference, you have to account for psychological factors that actually predict violent behavior.
00:37:22 [Speaker 12]
And that is

00:37:23 [Speaker 1]
I would say that that's a pretty strong one.
00:37:27 [Speaker 1]
I mean and I I think that that's the argument the Trump administration is making, sir, that they are prone to violence.
00:37:36 [Speaker 1]
Right?
00:37:37 [Speaker 1]
Although not in the diagnostic and statistics manual as an indicator of their disorder, they are prone to to violence from what I believe are all the SSRIs and hormone pills that they're put on because normal, homosexuals are not more prone to violence.
00:37:55 [Speaker 1]
It's it's the people who were changing their chemical makeup of their body seem to be more prone to violence.

00:38:03 [Speaker 1]
And that's that's the argument that they're that they're gonna try to make.
00:38:07 [Speaker 1]
And the argue you're not making a valid argument.
00:38:11 [Speaker 1]
I mean, that this is what's wrong with the left.
00:38:12 [Speaker 1]
I I can't stand like, this guy, you're in a nationally syndicated program, which is terrible, by the way, and you can't come up with a logical argument against this.
00:38:24 [Speaker 1]
This is this is, like, this is the quality of people that are on television, which is why everybody's here listening to this show and not watching MSNBC.

00:38:33 [Speaker 1]
That's why the majority of Americans are fleeing to podcasters and, you know, talk shows and even Democrats.
00:38:41 [Speaker 1]
So, you know, they they are too because the the talent the talent's in the audience, man.
00:38:46 [Speaker 1]
It's not on the field.

00:38:47 [Speaker 12]
To say, like, is someone extremely impulsive?
00:38:50 [Speaker 12]
Does somebody have is some does someone have road rage issues?
00:38:54 [Speaker 12]
Does someone have anger management problems?
00:38:56 [Speaker 12]
Do they have alcohol problems?
00:38:57 [Speaker 12]
These are all things that you would account for in an actual comprehensive background check as opposed to the system that currently That

00:39:04 [Speaker 5]
would be pretty burdensome.

00:39:05 [Speaker 12]
Would be pretty burdensome.
00:39:07 [Speaker 12]
Certainly would be pretty burdensome.
00:39:08 [Speaker 12]
But the question is, do you want people to be safe or do you just wanna expedite commerce?
00:39:12 [Speaker 12]
And that's the purpose of the background check system as it is now, to expedite commerce.

00:39:16 [Speaker 5]
Alright.
00:39:17 [Speaker 5]
Mike Speese, really good to have you.

00:39:22 [Speaker 1]
To expedite commerce.
00:39:24 [Speaker 1]
Like, shut up, dude.
00:39:29 [Speaker 1]
I'm more aggravated now.
00:39:32 [Speaker 1]
I'm I'm more aggravated now.
00:39:40 [Speaker 1]
Let's listen to this from Fox.

00:39:42 [Speaker 1]
Let's hear what Fox News had to say.

00:39:45 [Speaker 13]
We wanna bring you this update as the justice department is considering ways to prevent transgender people from buying guns according to multiple reports.
00:39:57 [Speaker 13]
The news comes one week after the deadly school shooting in Minneapolis.
00:40:01 [Speaker 13]
The suspect in that shooting was transgender.
00:40:04 [Speaker 13]
Justice department officials are reportedly considering a range of options, but banning an entire group of Americans from purchasing a gun could be a difficult to implement or e even illegal.
00:40:17 [Speaker 13]
To help us understand what's possible and where we're going to be now joined by constitutional law expert Robert McWhirter.

00:40:27 [Speaker 13]
And, Robert, let's start out right now what you thought about this news.

00:40:33 [Speaker 14]
Well, it's a little shocking.
00:40:35 [Speaker 14]
And, actually, any gun owner should be very afraid, and the national rifle says she should be up in arms about this proposal.
00:40:41 [Speaker 14]
Look.
00:40:42 [Speaker 14]
If you're gonna say that a diagnosis of gender dysmorphia, which is part of the foundation of transgender

00:40:49 [Speaker 1]
He called it dysmorphia too.

00:40:56 [Speaker 14]
There's a basis to take away guns.
00:40:58 [Speaker 14]
Well, why not somebody who's clinically depressed?
00:41:00 [Speaker 14]
Do they all get their guns taken away?
00:41:02 [Speaker 14]
Yes.
00:41:02 [Speaker 14]
What about somebody who just has a neuroses about, I don't know, whatever, And all of a sudden, you're making a justification to take away their second amendment right to bear arms.

00:41:13 [Speaker 14]
Yep.
00:41:14 [Speaker 14]
And this is the thinnest of bases which to do it.
00:41:18 [Speaker 14]
Transgender people are usually four times more likely to be victims of crimes rather than perpetrators of crimes.
00:41:25 [Speaker 14]
And the people who have committed mass shootings have been overwhelmingly heterosexual men, who are called cisgender, but let's just say heterosexual men.
00:41:35 [Speaker 14]
So to say that you're gonna, you know, kinda go after transgender people, frankly, I just think this is an attempt to create an area about the school shooting, the tragedy that occurred with the kids at mass And to try to take this focus as how somebody something how this has something to do with the culture wars other than the fact that we don't have gun laws that keep the hands guns out of the hands of people who are dangerous.

00:41:59 [Speaker 13]
And, Robert, I mean, just how would this even work, for, like, gun owners in the stores?
00:42:05 [Speaker 13]
I mean, how would they be able to ask someone, hey.
00:42:08 [Speaker 13]
Are you transgender?

00:42:12 [Speaker 14]
That is a very good question, because a lot of transgenders, I mean, you can't tell.
00:42:19 [Speaker 14]
I mean, some, I suppose, you can tell.
00:42:21 [Speaker 14]
But by looking at people, and then are you going to now ask for somebody's psychological profile?
00:42:29 [Speaker 14]
I mean, maybe if that's what you want as a basis for gun control that you cannot buy a firearm a firearm unless you are deemed to be psychologically fit, then fine.
00:42:40 [Speaker 14]
But that's something that the National Rifle Association should be totally up in arms about.

00:42:45 [Speaker 14]
If we

00:42:46 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:42:46 [Speaker 1]
And they're silent because this is a Republican.
00:42:49 [Speaker 1]
On both sides of the aisle, this is how it works, man.
00:42:52 [Speaker 1]
They're not gonna criticize Republicans are not gonna criticize Republicans, but this this is not an acceptable thing that should be happening.
00:42:59 [Speaker 1]
Pam Bondi, and I've said it a 100 times on this show, is very anti gun.

00:43:04 [Speaker 1]
Pam Bondi used to be the attorney general of Florida.
00:43:08 [Speaker 1]
She believes you should be able to take the guns and then do process later, and so does Donald Trump.
00:43:14 [Speaker 1]
He agrees with her on that, that portion of it, but he does believe in gun rights, which we're gonna go over.

00:43:20 [Speaker 14]
Have a psychological test before you can own a firearm?
00:43:23 [Speaker 14]
I don't think that they would be very happy about it.
00:43:25 [Speaker 14]
And how else are you gonna tell whether somebody is psychologically fit and whether they're transgender or not?

00:43:31 [Speaker 13]
Yeah.
00:43:31 [Speaker 13]
That's so true.
00:43:32 [Speaker 13]
And, what what else, too, Robert?
00:43:34 [Speaker 13]
What about other groups?
00:43:36 [Speaker 13]
I mean, we're talking about what about veterans that suffer from PTSD?

00:43:40 [Speaker 13]
I mean, those are things you gotta consider as well.

00:43:44 [Speaker 14]
Well, absolutely.
00:43:45 [Speaker 14]
And I will say, you know, there is a history of this country of excluding a specific group of people, and it comes from the region of the country that has the longest history of gun control.
00:43:58 [Speaker 14]
And frankly, surprisingly, that is the Deep South, which banned all black people from owning firearms, whether they were slaves or not.
00:44:09 [Speaker 14]
Free black people in the South did not own firearms.
00:44:11 [Speaker 14]
And that extended well past the civil war, well through Jim Crow, etcetera.

00:44:17 [Speaker 14]
And, you know, that's one of the bases of why the United States Supreme Court decided in the Heller decision that there

00:44:23 [Speaker 1]
is And that's what you need to understand.
00:44:28 [Speaker 1]
Why would the southern Democrats not want black people to have guns during Jim Crow?
00:44:35 [Speaker 1]
Because they don't want them to be able to fight back.
00:44:40 [Speaker 1]
And that's why Democrats don't want anybody to have guns because they don't want you to be able to fight back, just like they don't want you to be able to speak freely without the fear of persecution.
00:44:49 [Speaker 1]
It's tyranny.

00:44:51 [Speaker 1]
That's why the second amendment is so important.
00:44:55 [Speaker 1]
That's why it is the second thing in the bill of rights.
00:45:01 [Speaker 1]
The second.
00:45:02 [Speaker 1]
Because without it, you don't have anything else, man.
00:45:05 [Speaker 1]
You have nothing else.

00:45:07 [Speaker 14]
An individual right to bear arms because of that racist past, excluding an entire group of people in America from the right to possess a firearm.
00:45:16 [Speaker 14]
So I don't see how this is all that different when you just Two.

00:45:20 [Speaker 1]
A $179.
00:45:21 [Speaker 1]
That's a good deal.

00:45:22 [Speaker 14]
Just decided to grab one group of Americans and say they should be excluded.

00:45:27 [Speaker 13]
And it seems like, you know, when we see these tragedies, play out, in really any part of the country, but, you just

00:45:37 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
00:45:38 [Speaker 1]
Everybody wants to blame everything.
00:45:42 [Speaker 1]
Everybody wants to blame everything except for the person.
00:45:48 [Speaker 1]
How can you prevent it?
00:45:49 [Speaker 1]
How can you prevent it?

00:45:50 [Speaker 1]
How can you prevent it?
00:45:51 [Speaker 1]
How can you stop it?
00:45:52 [Speaker 1]
I mean, it's an age old question, and it's hard to even to discuss.
00:46:03 [Speaker 1]
It it really is.
00:46:04 [Speaker 1]
You know, the the founding fathers gave us that for specific reasons for specific reasons to defend ourselves against government, mostly, not really each other.

00:46:27 [Speaker 1]
You know, the left always makes the argument that they're, oh, they're they're, well, they're they're they're for hunting because back then, you know, you didn't you didn't there was no grocery stores.
00:46:39 [Speaker 1]
You had to hunt your food, so they said you could have bare arms so you can hunt.
00:46:44 [Speaker 1]
Bare arms.
00:46:45 [Speaker 1]
So you could have bare arms so you can hunt.
00:46:47 [Speaker 1]
So you can have the right to bare arms so that you can hunt.

00:46:49 [Speaker 1]
It's it's nonsense.
00:46:50 [Speaker 1]
It's not.
00:46:50 [Speaker 1]
It it's to protect against the radical government.
00:46:53 [Speaker 1]
Just like free speech is not so you can, you know, speak to your wife.
00:47:01 [Speaker 1]
It's so that you could speak against the government.

00:47:04 [Speaker 1]
Here's more videos of, trans people being violent.
00:47:06 [Speaker 1]
Let's look at this.
00:47:07 [Speaker 1]
Who are.
00:47:08 [Speaker 1]
No.

00:47:10 [Speaker 12]
Yeah.
00:47:10 [Speaker 12]
No.
00:47:10 [Speaker 12]
You just support the genocide of

00:47:26 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.

00:47:37 [Speaker 8]
I will act So

00:47:41 [Speaker 1]
it is highly likely that that person could buy a gun, but has decided not to and not to shoot everybody.
00:47:49 [Speaker 1]
So what's the problem?
00:47:53 [Speaker 1]
Do I think that that's a healthy person?
00:47:55 [Speaker 1]
No.
00:47:55 [Speaker 1]
I I I really don't.

00:47:58 [Speaker 1]
I I don't.
00:47:59 [Speaker 1]
I think that, they're deeply disturbed just like I think this person is deeply disturbed.

00:48:06 [Speaker 8]
I do wish death on transphobic people because they wish death on me and have caused death.

00:48:13 [Speaker 1]
I wish death on transphobic people because they've wished death on me.
00:48:19 [Speaker 1]
That's just they're victims of the propaganda of the left.

00:48:22 [Speaker 8]
Too many, many, many of my brothers and sisters in the trans community.
00:48:27 [Speaker 8]
I want to stab all of you to death as many times as I can.
00:48:31 [Speaker 8]
I wanna stab you in the throat and twist it like I'm carving a fucking pumpkin.
00:48:36 [Speaker 8]
I wanna shred you into tiny fucking pieces.
00:48:39 [Speaker 8]
I wanna tear your fucking bones out from your goddamn body.

00:48:43 [Speaker 8]
I wanna scoop your brains out with a fucking spoon.
00:48:47 [Speaker 8]
I wanna eat your fucking flesh.
00:48:50 [Speaker 8]
I do wish death on

00:48:53 [Speaker 1]
Notice how he never said he wanted to shoot you.
00:48:59 [Speaker 1]
How he never went and got a gun and shot anybody.
00:49:07 [Speaker 1]
It just it doesn't make any sense logically.
00:49:10 [Speaker 1]
I get it.
00:49:12 [Speaker 1]
I know the left is kinda the right's kinda, fighting over this and blah blah blah blah just like they were with the flag burning, which you know where I stand on that.

00:49:20 [Speaker 1]
But Trump's had a pretty good record on guns other than to take the guns first.
00:49:24 [Speaker 1]
He did ban bunks bump stocks, which I was against.
00:49:27 [Speaker 1]
But let's listen to Amir.

00:49:29 [Speaker 15]
Hi, mister president.
00:49:30 [Speaker 15]
We're learning

00:49:30 [Speaker 8]
that there are now two deceased following that shooting at Florida State University.
00:49:35 [Speaker 8]
Following and amid that, is there any changes that you wanna see to gun legislation?
00:49:39 [Speaker 8]
Anything you see broken with gun laws in our

00:49:41 [Speaker 16]
Well, I'm gonna have to look.
00:49:43 [Speaker 16]
I'm a big advocate of the second amendment.
00:49:45 [Speaker 16]
I have been from the beginning.
00:49:46 [Speaker 16]
I protected it, and, these things are terrible.
00:49:51 [Speaker 16]
But the gun doesn't do the shooting.

00:49:53 [Speaker 16]
The people do.
00:49:54 [Speaker 16]
It's, you know, a phrase that's used probably too often.
00:49:58 [Speaker 16]
I will tell you that, it's a shame.
00:50:02 [Speaker 16]
I'm just hearing about it now.
00:50:03 [Speaker 16]
I just hear about it.

00:50:05 [Speaker 16]
I know the area very well.
00:50:06 [Speaker 16]
I know the school very well.
00:50:08 [Speaker 16]
I know everything about it.
00:50:09 [Speaker 16]
It's Florida.
00:50:10 [Speaker 16]
And, we'll have more to say about it later.

00:50:12 [Speaker 8]
What do you mean to say

00:50:13 [Speaker 5]
there will be more to say about it?

00:50:15 [Speaker 16]
Only in terms of, what happened.
00:50:18 [Speaker 16]
As far as legislation is concerned, this has been going on for a long time.
00:50:22 [Speaker 16]
I have, an obligation to protect the second amendment.
00:50:25 [Speaker 16]
I ran on the second amendment among many other things, and I will always protect the second amendment.

00:50:30 [Speaker 8]
Mister president, listen around The United States.

00:50:34 [Speaker 1]
But banning a certain class of people from buying guns is not and what I love about Trump is that he is consistent.
00:50:43 [Speaker 1]
He has been consistent on this issue other than a few minor exceptions.

00:50:48 [Speaker 17]
She wants to take away everyone's gun.
00:50:50 [Speaker 17]
If you take away guns, you can't do it because people need the guns for protection.
00:50:55 [Speaker 17]
Now entertainment, they wanted hunting.
00:50:57 [Speaker 17]
They want you know, different things.
00:50:58 [Speaker 17]
But they need weapons for protection in this country.

00:51:02 [Speaker 17]
People live out in the woods, and they're not gonna have a gun.
00:51:05 [Speaker 17]
If you look at some some countries, I don't wanna go I don't wanna get them in trouble, but some countries have actually gone the opposite way.
00:51:12 [Speaker 17]
They had very strong gun laws, and now they have gone the opposite way where they allowed people to have guns, where in one case, they encouraged people to go out and get guns, and crime is down 29%.
00:51:25 [Speaker 17]
And remember this, what is the toughest gun law in The United States?
00:51:30 [Speaker 17]
Chicago.

00:51:33 [Speaker 17]
On July 4, hundred and seventeen people were shot and seventeen died.
00:51:38 [Speaker 17]
The toughest gun laws in The United States are in the city of Chicago.
00:51:43 [Speaker 17]
You know that.
00:51:44 [Speaker 17]
They had a 117 people shot.
00:51:47 [Speaker 17]
Afghanistan does not have that.

00:51:54 [Speaker 1]
He's been pretty consistent.
00:51:55 [Speaker 1]
Even back, this is this is, like, 1999.
00:52:03 [Speaker 1]
Let's listen to this.
00:52:05 [Speaker 1]
This is Trump in 1999 talking about guns.

00:52:08 [Speaker 14]
Now if you have a law that says no guns, the people that are law abiding are gonna go by that law.
00:52:15 [Speaker 14]
But the bad guys aren't, so they're gonna have all the guns that the good guys aren't.
00:52:18 [Speaker 14]
Now if you Duh.

00:52:23 [Speaker 1]
I mean, absolutely.
00:52:27 [Speaker 1]
That was a common argument back then.
00:52:30 [Speaker 1]
Even JD Vance, solid on guns.
00:52:32 [Speaker 1]
I I don't know where this is coming from.
00:52:35 [Speaker 1]
This is, uncle Ted, my boy, who supports the show, gave us a shout out, endorses the show.

00:52:41 [Speaker 1]
You guys need to follow uncle Ted Nugent.
00:52:45 [Speaker 1]
I'm trying to get him on again, but we'll see where that goes.
00:52:48 [Speaker 1]
But this is JD Vance.
00:52:50 [Speaker 1]
The whole administration, except for really Pam Bondi.

00:52:52 [Speaker 10]
Hey.
00:52:53 [Speaker 10]
Yeah.
00:52:53 [Speaker 10]
The the the idea that you can gun regulate your way out of this problem Right.
00:52:58 [Speaker 10]
Is ridiculous.

00:52:58 [Speaker 9]
It's ridiculous.

00:52:59 [Speaker 10]
We have so many firearms in The United States Of America that even if I bought into the gun control argument, you're never going to be able to get sufficient guns off the streets.

00:53:08 [Speaker 1]
Right.

00:53:08 [Speaker 10]
So it's ridiculous.
00:53:10 [Speaker 10]
It's also We have to actually go after some of the root causes here.
00:53:13 [Speaker 10]
It also ignores I mean, like Finland, for example, has a lot of guns, does not have nearly the same problem with these mass shooters that we do.
00:53:21 [Speaker 10]
I'd be interested to see what their their, mental health drug usage rate is too.

00:53:27 [Speaker 18]
Did you ever see Ted Nugent debate Pierce Morgan on gun violence?

00:53:32 [Speaker 10]
No.
00:53:32 [Speaker 10]
I never did.
00:53:33 [Speaker 10]
That's fast.
00:53:33 [Speaker 10]
Pretty good.

00:53:34 [Speaker 18]
It's really good.

00:53:35 [Speaker 10]
Ted's a smart guy.

00:53:36 [Speaker 18]
He's a very smart guy.
00:53:36 [Speaker 18]
But Ted actually knows the statistics.
00:53:39 [Speaker 18]
So when Pierce was bringing up all the mass shootings

00:53:43 [Speaker 5]
Yeah.

00:53:43 [Speaker 18]
And all the gun violence shootings, Ted said, do you know what they really are?
00:53:47 [Speaker 18]
Do you know how many of them are suicide?
00:53:50 [Speaker 18]
Do you know how many of them are gang violence?
00:53:52 [Speaker 18]
Do you know how many of them are cops shooting bad guys?
00:53:55 [Speaker 18]
Do you know how many of them are actually mass shooters?

00:54:00 [Speaker 12]
Yeah.

00:54:00 [Speaker 10]
But yeah.
00:54:01 [Speaker 10]
That's that's yeah.
00:54:01 [Speaker 10]
I did know that, actually.
00:54:02 [Speaker 10]
The when we talk about gun violence problem, what we're really talking about primarily is gang violence.

00:54:08 [Speaker 7]
Yes.
00:54:08 [Speaker 7]
Right?

00:54:08 [Speaker 10]
That's where that's where a lot of the gun violence I think a majority of the gun violence is coming from, which is not to say it's not

00:54:17 [Speaker 1]
That's where that statistic is.
00:54:18 [Speaker 1]
I know I put a pin in it, and I haven't come back to it, but now we're back.
00:54:23 [Speaker 1]
Where that statistic is is that the majority of you know, the the number one killer of children in The United States is guns.
00:54:30 [Speaker 1]
That's the a complete load of shit.
00:54:35 [Speaker 1]
That their the the the where they're getting that statistic from is they're adding in adolescent gang members and adolescent suicides.

00:54:45 [Speaker 1]
So all these shootings in Chicago, in New York are gangs shooting each other.
00:54:53 [Speaker 1]
They're teenage gangbangers.
00:54:55 [Speaker 1]
They're idiots.
00:54:56 [Speaker 1]
They're dying.
00:54:57 [Speaker 1]
They're they're living horrible lives.

00:55:03 [Speaker 1]
And then the the Democratic Party takes those statistics in an effort to manipulate it and then say, oh, yeah.
00:55:11 [Speaker 1]
Well, no.
00:55:12 [Speaker 1]
Children.
00:55:12 [Speaker 1]
And then your normal suburban person who's kind of a swing burner goes, children?
00:55:18 [Speaker 1]
Like, seven year olds?

00:55:20 [Speaker 1]
That's the number one cause of death?
00:55:22 [Speaker 1]
No.
00:55:22 [Speaker 1]
That's not the number one cause of death.
00:55:25 [Speaker 1]
That's not the number one cause of death.
00:55:29 [Speaker 1]
Here is, freaking Elon Omar on CNN with this Grinch talking about gun control?

00:55:40 [Speaker 19]
I mean, that is a question that we've asked ourselves when Columbine happened back when I was in high school.
00:55:46 [Speaker 19]
We've asked ourselves that question when we saw little babies being slaughtered in Sandy Hook.
00:55:53 [Speaker 19]
We continue to ask ourselves that question.
00:55:55 [Speaker 19]
What I can tell you is that we collectively have a solution.
00:55:59 [Speaker 19]
We know, that when we allow as a country for guns to be accessible, to to people in the easy way that it is in The United States, we continue to have these kind of tragedies when we do not collectively, as a community, in The United States address mental health illness, when we don't see these children and communities, that are impacted, and, you know, look for signs that tell

00:56:26 [Speaker 1]
Stop putting all these kids on medications.
00:56:30 [Speaker 1]
Stop.

00:56:34 [Speaker 19]
There is something wrong.
00:56:35 [Speaker 19]
We know that the assailant in this, tragedy, had a YouTube page where he was posting, you know, documenting, the the kind of insanity that that unfolded, today.

00:56:50 [Speaker 1]
That's not true.
00:56:52 [Speaker 1]
It's like a video of him reading a dryer manual.
00:56:55 [Speaker 1]
The YouTube was automatically the video was already shot out after the incident happened.
00:56:59 [Speaker 1]
It was set on a timer.
00:57:00 [Speaker 1]
What the hell are you talking about?

00:57:03 [Speaker 19]
Somebody saw that, and what we want to change is our perspective.
00:57:07 [Speaker 19]
We want to be able to become a country that sees images like that and alerts someone.
00:57:14 [Speaker 19]
Because if that would have happened today, two beautiful angels would still be with us.
00:57:20 [Speaker 19]
A whole community would not be devastated, and these families would still have, their loved ones going home to them tonight.

00:57:29 [Speaker 20]
Yeah.
00:57:29 [Speaker 20]
You just can't even imagine what these those parents are feeling, tonight.
00:57:34 [Speaker 20]
And as you noted, I mean, it's every parent's worst nightmare.
00:57:38 [Speaker 20]
And when you look at this in terms of of this

00:57:43 [Speaker 1]
It's horrible.
00:57:46 [Speaker 1]
But it I would I would venture to say that there were plenty of employees at the school who are more than capable of responsibly carrying a firearm to the school.
00:58:02 [Speaker 1]
Without a doubt in my mind.
00:58:06 [Speaker 1]
Without a single doubt in my mind.
00:58:11 [Speaker 1]
I'm sure there's employees of the school who have a concealed weapons permit, but are forced to leave them home when they go to work every day.

00:58:20 [Speaker 1]
And that might not even have stopped it.
00:58:24 [Speaker 1]
That's the thing.
00:58:25 [Speaker 1]
You know?
00:58:25 [Speaker 1]
I mean, I deal with a lot of webs doing this.
00:58:30 [Speaker 1]
Okay?

00:58:30 [Speaker 1]
It's what I signed up for.
00:58:31 [Speaker 1]
They're in my comment section.
00:58:33 [Speaker 1]
I I did a whole video when the shooting happened that you need armed guards in school.
00:58:37 [Speaker 1]
You need armed guards in school.
00:58:38 [Speaker 1]
I'm over it.

00:58:39 [Speaker 1]
It's stupid not to.
00:58:41 [Speaker 1]
We protect our airports better than we protect our our children.
00:58:44 [Speaker 1]
That that should be one of the most secure places on Earth.
00:58:48 [Speaker 1]
We protect our politicians.
00:58:50 [Speaker 1]
I want I want secure buildings with bulletproof glass that are locked in.

00:58:55 [Speaker 1]
Nobody can get in during the day.
00:58:58 [Speaker 1]
But the the I I say that, and then I get the libs in the comment.
00:59:04 [Speaker 1]
They're like, oh, a uvulite.
00:59:06 [Speaker 1]
Oh oh, like the cops that showed up, the good guy would they didn't do anything.
00:59:10 [Speaker 1]
So so your solution is to do nothing.

00:59:14 [Speaker 1]
Your solution is to do nothing.
00:59:17 [Speaker 1]
There is nothing you are going to be able to do to stop the situation.
00:59:23 [Speaker 1]
That's a step in the right direction.
00:59:24 [Speaker 1]
We have them in Florida.
00:59:26 [Speaker 1]
There's armed guards in, I think, every school in Florida.

00:59:29 [Speaker 1]
It's its own job.
00:59:32 [Speaker 1]
They're like resource police officers, and that's what they do.
00:59:35 [Speaker 1]
They protect the kids all day.

00:59:38 [Speaker 21]
This morning, sources say the justice department is considering a rule that could ban some transgender people from owning guns.
00:59:45 [Speaker 21]
Talks began after last week's school shooting in Minnesota where police say a 23 year old transgender woman killed two children.

00:59:53 [Speaker 22]
I think it is

00:59:54 [Speaker 1]
it was a man.

00:59:56 [Speaker 22]
It's disgraceful that Donald Trump is desecrating the memories of children, who were stolen from their families just days ago by turning, you know, their their tragedy, their pain, their trauma into a political sideshow.

01:00:11 [Speaker 21]
Sources say at the center of the discussion is gendered

01:00:14 [Speaker 1]
That's what you guys do.
01:00:16 [Speaker 1]
That's what you do every time with the gun with the gun debate.
01:00:19 [Speaker 1]
That's exactly what you do.

01:00:21 [Speaker 21]
Dysphoria, which refers to the distress experience when someone's identity and assigned sex don't match.
01:00:27 [Speaker 21]
The American Psychiatric Association stresses being transgender is not a mental illness, but sources say

01:00:35 [Speaker 1]
Okay.
01:00:35 [Speaker 1]
It is a mental illness.
01:00:39 [Speaker 1]
It is listed here in the diagnostic and statistic manual of mental disorders.
01:00:47 [Speaker 1]
Right?
01:00:48 [Speaker 1]
Right here.

01:00:50 [Speaker 1]
It's in here.
01:00:52 [Speaker 1]
What they're talking about is the the American Psychiatric Association tried to weasel it out of here, but it's still in here.
01:01:00 [Speaker 1]
It's still they left it in here because of it's been politicized.
01:01:04 [Speaker 1]
And the Biden administration, like, pressured them to take it out to say it's not a mental disorder.
01:01:09 [Speaker 1]
It's always been a mental disorder.

01:01:10 [Speaker 1]
It's a freaking mental disorder.
01:01:12 [Speaker 1]
It needs to be treated, not affirmed.
01:01:15 [Speaker 1]
They need therapy on how to, like, cognitive rehabilitation on on how to accept themselves for who they are and not what they want to be.

01:01:24 [Speaker 21]
The federal officials are debating whether gender dysphoria could fall under a federal law that bans people adjudicated as a mental defective from owning guns.
01:01:34 [Speaker 21]
Currently under the law, that determination can only be made by a court or other lawful authority.

01:01:40 [Speaker 22]
The actual question we are being asked in this moment is do transgender people deserve the same rights and freedoms as everyone else in this country?
01:01:47 [Speaker 22]
And the constitution says yes regardless of how Donald Trump feels about that.

01:01:51 [Speaker 21]
Data shows transgender people account for just point one percent of mass shootings since 2018, far below the nearly one percent share of the population.
01:02:00 [Speaker 21]
A justice department spokesperson says the DOJ is actively evaluating options to prevent the pattern of violence we've seen from individuals with specific mental health challenges and substance abuse disorders.
01:02:12 [Speaker 21]
Now studies show transgender Americans are four times more likely to be victims of violence than the general population.
01:02:19 [Speaker 21]
The Washington Post reported earlier this year that more trans people are turning to firearms for protection.

01:02:28 [Speaker 1]
I don't believe they're more susceptible.
01:02:32 [Speaker 1]
I just said something I just I don't believe.
01:02:34 [Speaker 1]
I I I don't believe that.
01:02:37 [Speaker 1]
I think that they're more mentally ill.
01:02:40 [Speaker 1]
I think that maybe they create scenarios where they get in confrontations, and then maybe sometimes the other person is arrested.

01:02:52 [Speaker 1]
Maybe sometimes they're arrested.
01:02:54 [Speaker 1]
But I do think that they are more susceptible to be involved in crimes.
01:03:03 [Speaker 1]
Here's the Young Turks.
01:03:04 [Speaker 1]
We're not gonna watch this whole thing, but I I do wanna hear what they have to say about it.
01:03:08 [Speaker 1]
Here's the Young Turks, and they're starting off with a clip of Carolyn Lovett.

01:03:13 [Speaker 15]
I've seen a lot of calls for action, you know, among these lawmakers saying that we shouldn't have to be crying.
01:03:18 [Speaker 15]
One that I've seen on the right actually is calls for the FBI to institute a new class of domestic terrorism that involves trans ideology.
01:03:24 [Speaker 15]
Is that something that the administration would support?

01:03:27 [Speaker 20]
I would have to check with the appropriate people on that.

01:03:31 [Speaker 11]
And it appears that White House press secretary Caroline Levitt did check-in with the White House on that because, last week, you just heard that senior reporter from the Daily Wire asking whether, trans ideology should receive a terror designation.
01:03:47 [Speaker 11]
And, it looks like now the White House is considering, maybe banning trans people from being able to obtain guns, which makes me wonder which makes me wonder, Cenk, how exactly would that work?
01:03:59 [Speaker 11]
Right?
01:03:59 [Speaker 11]
When you have, let's say, transgender individuals like Blair White, who's very convincing.
01:04:04 [Speaker 11]
Okay?

01:04:05 [Speaker 11]
Are you gonna do a genital test?
01:04:08 [Speaker 11]
Like, anyway, so here's what we know.
01:04:10 [Speaker 11]
Mary Margaret Ollahan, who is the very reporter that you saw in that video, just, reported today.
01:04:15 [Speaker 11]
Breaking, the justice department is deliberating banning guns for transgenders as part of a range of options blocking mentally unstable individuals from committing acts of violence.
01:04:24 [Speaker 11]
The, Daily Wire has learned, and an anonymous DOJ source, also told The Daily Wire the following.

01:04:30 [Speaker 11]
Individuals within the justice department are reviewing ways to ensure that mentally ill individuals suffering from gender dysphoria are unable to obtain firearms while they are unstable and well unwell.
01:04:45 [Speaker 11]
And a DOJ spokesman would not comment on specific measures being considered, but said that a range of options is on the table.
01:04:52 [Speaker 11]
Now do I think they're actually gonna try to go through with this?
01:04:56 [Speaker 11]
I mean, I don't know.
01:04:57 [Speaker 11]
It seems like another squirrel the Trump administration is throwing at us.

01:05:00 [Speaker 11]
But just for the sake of this discussion, I wanna take this seriously.
01:05:04 [Speaker 11]
As if they're being serious about it, and they're literally gonna go out of their way to discriminate against one tiny group of people in this country based on a handful of shootings that happened or were carried out by transgender people.

01:05:19 [Speaker 1]
And But that's what you do to you you wanna go after everybody with guns for one tiny group of people that commit mass shootings.
01:05:27 [Speaker 1]
I mean, maybe that's the lesson the Trump administration is trying to teach you.

01:05:31 [Speaker 11]
We're gonna give you the numbers in a second, but you know what this also does?
01:05:34 [Speaker 11]
It divides the country.
01:05:35 [Speaker 11]
It directs hatred and bigotry toward, one group of people in this country.
01:05:40 [Speaker 11]
It leads to the types of conversations that we're about to have where we break down how many mass shootings are committed by straight white males and how many are committed by transgender people.
01:05:49 [Speaker 11]
I'm sick of having these discussions.

01:05:52 [Speaker 9]
Yeah.

01:05:52 [Speaker 11]
Okay?
01:05:53 [Speaker 11]
Like, look by the way, you wanted to put them in a designated, like, terror list or something?
01:05:58 [Speaker 11]
If you're on a terrorist watch list in America, you can still legally buy guns.
01:06:02 [Speaker 11]
Let that sink in for a second.
01:06:04 [Speaker 11]
Anyway, Cenk

01:06:05 [Speaker 1]
Well, yeah.
01:06:05 [Speaker 1]
Because you haven't committed any crime.

01:06:09 [Speaker 8]
Go ahead.

01:06:09 [Speaker 23]
Yeah.
01:06:10 [Speaker 23]
So, lots of things here.

01:06:12 [Speaker 1]
Jenk's an idiot.

01:06:13 [Speaker 23]
Oh, first of all, obvious discrimination.
01:06:15 [Speaker 23]
So if you're in favor of this, you don't believe in equality?

01:06:18 [Speaker 1]
Well, no.
01:06:19 [Speaker 1]
Because it's a mental disorder.
01:06:21 [Speaker 1]
I don't agree with the thing, but they're going after people with mental disorders.
01:06:25 [Speaker 1]
Now for all we know, they come back and they say schizophrenics, anybody diagnosed with a mental disorder or prescribed this medication cannot purchase a firearm.
01:06:34 [Speaker 1]
Not just trans people.

01:06:36 [Speaker 23]
Period.
01:06:36 [Speaker 23]
And you can say, hey.

01:06:37 [Speaker 16]
I have my I

01:06:38 [Speaker 23]
have good reasons if you're a radical right.
01:06:40 [Speaker 23]
So while I don't I really don't like those people, I just think that they're all mentally ill.
01:06:45 [Speaker 23]
Brother

01:06:46 [Speaker 1]
They all are mentally ill.
01:06:48 [Speaker 1]
Again, the diagnostic and statistics manual of mental disorders.
01:07:00 [Speaker 1]
It's in here.
01:07:01 [Speaker 1]
You diagnose it from here.
01:07:04 [Speaker 1]
It has to be a mental disorder, which means you are mentally ill if you are diagnosed with anything in this book.

01:07:13 [Speaker 23]
I mean, if you're a fascist, there's some I can make that same argument about you, which is gonna be point number two in a second.
01:07:19 [Speaker 23]
Okay?
01:07:19 [Speaker 23]
But, no.
01:07:20 [Speaker 23]
But what you the argument you can't make is I wanna treat everyone equally.
01:07:24 [Speaker 23]
You're not.

01:07:25 [Speaker 23]
You're saying these group of people should have less rights.
01:07:27 [Speaker 23]
Okay.
01:07:28 [Speaker 23]
Argument number two is related.
01:07:30 [Speaker 23]
Be careful what you wish for if you're a right winger.
01:07:32 [Speaker 23]
Because once you ban one group of people for moaning guns, well, you just open that door.

01:07:36 [Speaker 23]
Now we could ban other groups of people for moaning guns.
01:07:39 [Speaker 23]
Okay?

01:07:39 [Speaker 8]
Yeah.

01:07:40 [Speaker 23]
And we could, do different things like, oh, well, you're doing it based on identity, trans.
01:07:44 [Speaker 23]
Right?
01:07:45 [Speaker 23]
We could do it based on that, White males, right wingers, etcetera.
01:07:48 [Speaker 23]
You could say, oh, mentally ill.
01:07:50 [Speaker 23]
Well, I think a lot of you are mentally ill.

01:07:52 [Speaker 23]
Okay.
01:07:52 [Speaker 23]
Boom.
01:07:53 [Speaker 23]
Here we go.
01:07:53 [Speaker 23]
Open another door.
01:07:55 [Speaker 23]
Oh, they're domestic terrorists.

01:07:56 [Speaker 23]
Well, I think that there's right wing domestic terrorists opened another door.

01:07:59 [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
01:08:00 [Speaker 1]
Well, they call you domestic terrorists.
01:08:01 [Speaker 1]
Terrorists.

01:08:01 [Speaker 23]
So if you're

01:08:01 [Speaker 1]
not I agree.
01:08:02 [Speaker 1]
I agree with them.
01:08:03 [Speaker 1]
I agree.
01:08:04 [Speaker 1]
100%, I agree.
01:08:06 [Speaker 1]
I don't I don't think they're gonna try to do this.

01:08:08 [Speaker 1]
I was disappointed.
01:08:10 [Speaker 1]
I was watching, I think, Michael Knowles today, and he was talking about how he supports it.
01:08:15 [Speaker 1]
Disappointed.
01:08:16 [Speaker 1]
But that's okay.
01:08:17 [Speaker 1]
I still love Michael Knowles.

01:08:19 [Speaker 1]
He's just wrong, and it happens sometimes.
01:08:23 [Speaker 1]
But, you know, you got you got a right to own a gun.
01:08:25 [Speaker 1]
And without due process, they can't take it away from you.
01:08:29 [Speaker 1]
So you you have a right to due process under the law.
01:08:33 [Speaker 1]
And if, government wants to take your guns away, you have to violate the rights of another.

01:08:41 [Speaker 1]
I mean, even if they do do it and it goes to the Supreme Court, I don't think the Supreme Court is going to uphold it.
01:08:47 [Speaker 1]
I I don't.
01:08:48 [Speaker 1]
I think that this is a popcorn fart to get the people talking to see what the they can get away with.
01:08:55 [Speaker 1]
They just to to change the the Department of Defense to the War Department.
01:09:00 [Speaker 1]
That's what it used to be called.

01:09:05 [Speaker 1]
Why?
01:09:05 [Speaker 1]
I I don't know.
01:09:06 [Speaker 1]
For a publicity stunt it's a lot of publicity stunts with the Trump administration, and I think they're doing a great job.
01:09:12 [Speaker 1]
I'm not knocking them at all.
01:09:13 [Speaker 1]
I think JD Vance is the man.

01:09:14 [Speaker 1]
I think he should be the next president of The United States.
01:09:17 [Speaker 1]
I think Donald Trump is doing a phenomenal job, and there's just things that I disagree with.
01:09:22 [Speaker 1]
That's what's gonna happen.
01:09:24 [Speaker 1]
You know?
01:09:24 [Speaker 1]
I'm here, to be fair and report accurately.

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I'm not here to be a shill for the right.
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