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From Ivy League to Alleged Murderer: The Enigmatic Case of Luigi Mangione

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What drives a well-educated engineer to become embroiled in a high-profile murder case? Join me on the Ryan Samuels Show as we peel back the layers of Luigi Mangione's shocking arrest and his alleged connection to the murder of CEO Brian Thompson. With an Ivy League pedigree and a seemingly innocuous social media presence, Mangione's story takes unexpected turns, raising piercing questions about anti-corporate sentiments and the extent of his links across Philadelphia, Hawaii, and San Francisco. We'll explore the tantalizing pieces of the puzzle, from his mysterious manifesto to his role at the dormant App Roar Studios.

The intersection of technology and crime-fighting is the focus of our investigation into the recent arrest of a ghost gun-wielding suspect in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Discover the state-of-the-art surveillance methods and the controversial use of facial recognition that led to this breakthrough. As privacy debates rage on, we'll dissect the legal ramifications of using drones and other advanced tools in tracking down suspects with anti-establishment inclinations, and what this means for the future of law enforcement and civil liberties.

Ghost guns, mental health, and media narratives collide in our exploration of modern crime. We pull no punches in critiquing the societal implications of 3D printed firearms and the media's portrayal of violence and self-defense, in light of the controversial Daniel Penny acquittal. As we unravel Luigi Mangione's gripping case, his outspoken critiques of the healthcare industry provide a chilling backdrop to a murder that may be politically charged. Tune in for a powerful discussion on crime, politics, and public perception, and how this complex tapestry shapes contemporary America.

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Speaker 4:

Hello Patriots, a major break in the killing of CEO Brian Thompson. A suspect well, they're not calling him a suspect, they're calling him a strong person of interest has been apprehended in Pennsylvania, apparently with the murder weapon on this individual. So we're going to go over that today. Who is this person? The name is Luigi Mangione. A little bit interesting in his. A couple of interesting things in his background that we're going to cover. But before we begin, uh, don't forget to hit that like share and subscribe button and make sure that you share this podcast with a friend. Let everybody know, um, where they can find it. We are live monday through friday at 8 pm and we'll be right back after a message from our sponsors.

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Speaker 4:

So, like we said, the suspect's name is luigi mangioni. Here is his facebook profile. That is still up, um, as we speak. Let's take a look at it. It looks like. According to his facebook profile, it says that he lives in. He currently lives in philadelphia, philadelphia, pennsylvania. He's the co-founder of app roar studios. We're gonna go over that a little bit. He went to the very elite university of pennsylvania. Police reports are coming out that they found a three page manifesto on it. Hopefully they'll release that. Looks like he's from Townsend, pennsylvania. He also lived in Hawaii and he has connections to San Francisco is what they're saying. This is his profile picture. That's obviously him on the left. We can tell that because those eyebrows are very indicative of the person behind the mask.

Speaker 4:

Very young, only 26 years old. It is now under arrest in Pennsylvania for the murder of Brian Thompson, the CEO. He went to the University of Pennsylvania, very prestigious school that's an Ivy League college. There are some preliminary reports coming out that he has a master's degree from the University of Pennsylvania. He did go on a trip to see Stanford University. That is all in here on his info. His basic info is that he's a male. That's interesting family and relationships. He does have some cousins, um, and some things that are listed in um his facebook profile.

Speaker 4:

Now these are some things that he is following. Nothing really too of note. Um, a lot of university of pennsylvania pages on his facebook. Um, the unscripted project which is a um a non-profit to equip students with building blocks for their prayer. A lot of educational stuff. Nothing really of note or too radical on his facebook following, at least just on his Facebook following. We'll see what the manifesto says.

Speaker 4:

The chief of police for the NYPD came out and said that the manifesto says he holds a very deep grudge towards the um corporate america, and he didn't mention ceo specifically, but something alluding towards um hated capitalism is kind of what they're saying. Obviously, his italian is luigi mangioni. He's a member of the italian clubs of the university of pennsylvania. Again, this is all. Just he follows gator. Here's the co. He's the co founder of this company, which is app roar studios. It only has 300 followers. Um, it doesn't look like it does anything really like. It's a startup company that he really hasn't done anything with. Um stay tuned for an exciting announcement coming soon. That was april 18th of 2020 and they haven't posted anything since, so I'm gonna assume that this company um did not come into fruition. Uh, like he had uh dreamed of. Yeah, said young kid murders the ceo on the street, at least allegedly. It definitely looks like the suspect that they are looking for um.

Speaker 4:

Here are some of the photos um, when he went to stanford university. That's him in the top left. Um like he. That's him right there. It looks like he went with a bunch of students from high school. That's him. The second person um from the left. You could tell again, notably uh by those eyebrows. This is him walking around. Um, yeah, a lot, a lot of photos. Social media present the page is set to private. Social media present the page is set to private um. So there is really I. I can't really see any posts or any rants or any raves or any anything of that nature, at least on his uh facebook page. Now he has a website. The website's no longer up and running. Presumably that is from the website for his company. That looks like they haven't posted since 2020. He did work at Firaxis Games in Sparks, maryland. He graduated from Gilman School.

Speaker 4:

There's going to be a lot of information that comes out about this suspect. This person is not a hero. This person is not a hero. Uh, this person is, uh, obviously very disturbed. It takes a very disturbed person to murder somebody, basically right now, without cause. Um, it doesn't seem to be that, uh, this individual was targeting Brian Thompson because he was a any personal vendetta. It seems to be specifically because of his, his political beliefs and his, his mindset towards, I guess, capitalist capitalist government, for lack of a better term against big corporations.

Speaker 4:

Here's just some of the things going on on Twitter. This is him at the Philadelphia Museum and a picture of him next to the famous one, where he kind of looks like a female. This is a post on Twitter. It says true, italian luigi mangioni's fatal error as an assassin was giving himself away by stopping to flirt with the cashier at the cafe before going to work. Um, he was a data engineer and he's the main suspect in the united healthcare. He's an anti-capitalist, capitalist, climate change activist and former ivy league student.

Speaker 4:

Yes, like we projected, um, people were saying that he's gay. I mean, we really don't know that, not right now. There's gonna be a lot of misinformation, that the cloud of information is going to come out. What we try to do is keep it kind of keep our um compulsions under control and try to figure out exactly who this person is and what their motivations are. We don't know at this time. There's a picture of him with those giant eyebrows holding a happy meal as a grown man. Um, so we could definitely understand why people think that maybe he's a little light in the uh, in the loafers.

Speaker 4:

Now the police department said that a, a mcdonald's employee recognized the, the, the, the suspect from the photos that they released online, called the police to come check it out. The police came, checked it out and then they found a pistol on him with a silencer. That's what's being said right now either with the silencer or capable of holding the silencer. The mayor of New York City is saying that it's a ghost gun or a 3D-printed gun and then, of course, immediately goes into why 3D-printed guns are banned. We need to ban them at the federal level. Blah, blah, blah, blah spins it into an anti-gun political argument.

Speaker 4:

People were saying he looks gay. I mean, I don't know what looking gay is. Um system breaking 911 down, bad assassin. A free female employee at the hostel where the alleged united health care ceo was staying told police that she had been flirting with the masked man and at one point asked him to lower his mask so she could see his face. Per CNN, it was during the interaction that the smiling photo was found.

Speaker 4:

Okay, him again. They're all the same photos. Obviously not a lot of information to go off of at the moment, but we will see just exactly where this person's mindset was. He has some friends on his Facebook and not a whole lot. Here's him again him hiking like a true italian. We read that one already. So all the same stuff and, um, obviously mentally ill, mentally ill psychopath. Um, I'm interested to see if they're going to release that manifesto. If not, we already have a pretty pretty good idea of exactly what the motive was. Now they have not officially charged him in New York City with this crime. They have not officially charged him in New York City with this crime. He's being held in Pennsylvania, where he is being charged with a weapons charge because he was carrying a fire. I don't know exactly what the charge is, but he's obviously carrying a concealed weapon, presumably without a permit in Pennsylvania, and that is a crime. Here is the. Let's see if we can listen to this. Let's listen to this. This is a uh, the. This is the press conference.

Speaker 5:

They have captured the killer of that CEO. Let's listen in for a moment.

Speaker 3:

There's numerous linchpins in this case and the fact that we've recovered an enormous amount of forensic evidence, an enormous amount of video, and, once again, you again with your help and the public's help. So I really couldn't put it on one thing, but if I had to, it would be the release of that photograph from the media.

Speaker 7:

Dean.

Speaker 8:

You said you had a passport on you. Do you believe he was trying to flee the country? And also, are you still looking for any evidence in Central Park from the guy who stole the bike?

Speaker 3:

We had divers in the water yesterday that came up negative results the passport we don't believe that he was planning on doing any traveling at this time. We don't think he at this point in our investigation. We don't think he was trying to flee the country.

Speaker 5:

The person at the McDonald's. Were they buying food? What were they doing at that exact moment?

Speaker 3:

doing at that exact moment, he was an employee at the McDonald's Right but what was the suspect? Doing. He was sitting there eating, will the suspect?

Speaker 2:

be brought back to New York and charged here and when.

Speaker 3:

We're going to have to work that out with the Manhattan District Attorney's Office in Altoona, Pennsylvania. He's going to be facing gun charges there and at some point we'll work out through extradition to bring him back to New York to face charges here. Working with the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, Anita.

Speaker 7:

Hi Anita from the New York Post. I was just hoping to get more details on the capture itself. Did he put up a fight? Did he say anything to cops? And we've also reported that he published online anti-health care industry rantings. Can you share with us some of the services that he posted on?

Speaker 3:

We're still working through his social media. We're going to do a complete scrub of that. Preliminarily, like I said, he seems that he has some ill will toward corporate America, but that will all come out as part of our investigation. We're not done here. We're still going to be putting this together. We're still going to be working very hard to bring this to a successful conclusion.

Speaker 7:

And the capture itself. Did he put up a fight? Did he say anything to the police?

Speaker 3:

I don't have that information.

Speaker 5:

Shana, oh sorry, can you elaborate on how he got there, the path he took from Port Thorny on the George Washington Bridge to Altoona, pa?

Speaker 3:

Same thing. This just happened this morning.

Speaker 7:

We'll be working backtracking his steps from New York to Altoona, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 5:

I was going to ask if we knew anything. If you took a bus to Philadelphia first and then somehow got to Altoona.

Speaker 3:

We're still working on that. We're still working through that.

Speaker 4:

That's probably the most likely scenario, because Facebook does say that. You just saw with me that he currently lives in Philadelphia, pennsylvania.

Speaker 6:

Is there any indication that anybody else was helping him from the inside? You know, as far as tracking the CEO's movements, Once again, we're still working this investigation very hard.

Speaker 3:

It's not at its conclusion yet. That could come out during our investigation, but as of right now we have no indication that that took place.

Speaker 8:

Lisa Chief? Did he have any weapons?

Speaker 3:

or anything like that with him when he was arrested. He was in possession of a ghost gun that had the capability of firing a nine millimeter round and a suppressor.

Speaker 4:

So they're saying he did have a suppressor on him. I mean, he looks just like him, has a nine millimeter on him with which is the caliber that brian thompson was murdered with, and a suppressor, all while looking exactly like the person in all the photos. So, um, you know, uh, does that mean that he's guilty? Highly likely. However, there have been many cases in american history where, um, something was that, where things have been that close and it was the complete wrong person. I mean, that has happened, uh, before. Is that likely in this situation? No, probably not. Um, they are saying that in a mcdonald's employee called the police. Very well, may have happened, boy, you called the police. Very well, may have happened. Absolutely may have happened.

Speaker 4:

Um, uh, but you know new york city and we we've been talking about this. They have that facial recognition where they'll just pop, pop your face in a software and all these cameras will pull you up anywhere you were at any time, um, in the entire city, whether you were in the subway or on this street corner or there. That's how they were able to track his movements so quickly. Um, they were able to find out oh, he's staying at this hostel. He was over here. He was, you know, uh, we. So we caught him riding his bike here. Um, we caught him at this, uh, this cafe. You know they, they have this very intricate software and, uh, they have been directly working with the fbi. Does the fbi have this type of capability nationwide and they're just not telling anybody. Um, and maybe you know, he laid low for a while, didn't go out and then decided to go to a mcdonald's and then, all of a sudden, a, a federal facial recognition software, picks him up.

Speaker 4:

Is, is that what happened? I have no idea. Is that possible? Look, I don't put anything past the federal government. Uh, it would not surprise me in the least if they had that type of technology. Uh, back before edward snowden had come out that they were listening to everybody's devices and they were tracking everybody's. They could turn on your, your webcam without you knowing. They can turn on, could turn on your webcam without you knowing. They can turn on your microphone on your phone without you knowing and listen to your conversations without a warrant. I had said that that had been going on. I was at a high-level security clearance when I was in the military. I had heard of certain things of that nature, and I had said that that stuff had been going on for quite some time, more time than they're telling us about or admitting to. So would it surprise me if they have that technology? No, of course not. If New York City has it, I'm sure the federal government has it as well, which would explain certain situations. So let's listen to what else he had to say.

Speaker 8:

Get into a little bit about the technical aspects of the investigation. I know you deployed an unprecedented amount of technology. You also activated the Sentry program through Intel. Can you talk about how that is going to play into actually building the case as far as cell phone and all of the other technical aspects of what you've done?

Speaker 3:

in this. In this case, it really came down to technology was the use of drones in central park and really comes down to the to the video canvas that we did. We used every source of video that we could collect hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours from hundreds of sources, and that helped bring this to where we are right now.

Speaker 8:

The gun? Is it believed to be the gun you used in the shooting and there was some talk that it was a veterinarian-type gun. Is that accurate?

Speaker 3:

No, right now the information we're getting from Altoona is that the gun appears to be a ghost gun. May have been made on a 3D printer. The capability of firing a 9mm round obviously that will come out during our ballistics testing.

Speaker 4:

Notice how, in the background, they have for those of you who are on the podcast who can't see it they have this sign that says Over 19,000 illegal guns taken off our streets. Every block counts, reducing crime in Brooklyn and the Bronx. You know they have this major anti-gun agenda in New York City and it's not a coincidence that that sign is up there while they're giving this news conference about this killer who had a ghost gun.

Speaker 8:

Oliver.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, oliver Barnes from the Financial Times. Do you have any indication of how long this handwritten? Is it a handwritten manifesto that you found on the suspect? And then also whether or not he put it online at all.

Speaker 3:

Don't know if it's online as of right now. It's a handwritten three-page document. Chief, does he have ties to that area and was he someone who you knew by name before his arrest? We believe he may have attended college in Pennsylvania but, like I said earlier, he has ties to Maryland and California and Hawaii and you knew him by name before today. Was his name on your radar? Excuse me, was his?

Speaker 11:

name on your radar.

Speaker 3:

Was he someone who you had been looking into before his arrest? No, we did not have his name prior to today.

Speaker 1:

Lynn Lynn. Okay, does he have any prior arrests? I know there were none for New York City, but is there any prior arrests anywhere else in the country?

Speaker 3:

We have not come across any arrests in the country.

Speaker 10:

Keith, hi, how are you On two things. On the ghost gun, is it something you're going to be looking into to see if he made it himself? Can he make that himself, or is that? Would he have to buy the gun?

Speaker 4:

Reporters ask the dumbest freaking questions. Like it's a ghost gun. They're made with 3D printers. Is this something he made himself? They just ask the stupidest questions.

Speaker 3:

No, but once again, that would be part of our investigation as we follow up.

Speaker 10:

I mean, obviously he's going to face murder charges, but is there any chance that he could face any other charges, because he was targeting the CEO because of his writings and other things that we're now finding on him?

Speaker 3:

That determination will be made by Alvin Bragg. Alvin Bragg, we believe he attended college in Pennsylvania. Does he know anybody in Pennsylvania Wouldn't be able to tell you that he attended college in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 4:

He clearly knows people in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1:

We're going to take one more question no-transcript.

Speaker 9:

I'm going to take one more question. I'm going to take one more question.

Speaker 3:

Our investigation is leaning toward he was acting alone. So, like I stated earlier, we're still working through the investigation. We're not stopping today and as far as far as the manifesto like I said, I don't have the complete details of that it's in the possession of the Altoona Police Department.

Speaker 11:

We're gonna shift to a top down. Yep, yep, good job, chief Commissioner, chief Manager, chief Manjari, zero and in on ghost guns. We have really talked about this since the beginning of the administration. They they could be made on a 3d printer and they are extremely dangerous and we must do more on the federal level to clap down on the availability of ghost guns yeah, because you know, if you got rid of this ghost gun, the CEO wouldn't have died.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, you know Luigi wouldn't have found another way. There's no way he would have run him over with a car on the sidewalk, would that? Would that have killed him? I mean, I don't know, you know it's just. You know it has to be the gun's fault. It can't be anything else. You know, it can't be the rhetoric of the left, uh, the anti-capitalist woke, um mental illness leftists calling for violence all the time against conservatives, or you know, big corporate greed, blaming inflation on you know corporate greed? Oh yeah, it has nothing to do with printing excessive money. It has to do with, you know, these greedy CEOs. Not the devaluation of the dollar, of course. Why would it be anything else? Let's listen to this CNN report.

Speaker 1:

John, you have some new details about specific lines that you can quote from this two-page handwritten document that was found on Luigi Mangione's person. What was he writing about?

Speaker 6:

Well, he was railing against the health care industry, which of course fits into the scenario here.

Speaker 4:

Just one question. We have Obamacare. If Obamacare is so great, why would this person need to murder a CEO of a health care company? If it's so great, why would the left be celebrating the murder of this ceo, this innocent man who's just running a business? And that's what they're doing. They're they're celebrating, but that's what they do do. And uh, daniel penny in other news we're going to get back to this after I let you know this daniel penny was a completely acquitted of all charges in the murder of jordan neely, which it wasn't even a murder. Jordan neely had a knife and was threatening to murder innocent passengers who were, um, you know, scared to death. And now, uh, black lives matter is threatening to riot all over manhattan. Yeah, but let's listen to this.

Speaker 6:

He talks about how these parasites had it coming. He starts off basically saying I don't want to cause any trauma, but it had to be done. So a second page really kind of goes into problems with the health industry. He raises the question you know, why do we have the most expensive healthcare in the world? But we're 42, rated 42 in life expectancy around the world.

Speaker 4:

I can't vet his facts or findings there but maybe some seed oils would have to do with that or eating McDonald's like you were when you got caught there.

Speaker 6:

But it was talking about the healthcare industry and the need for violence. I mean, especially when you talk about, you know, the opening, which is that it had to be done, these parasites, you know, had it coming. That does kind of fit in what they're talking about. What do we know about this individual? Mr Mangione is a engineer. He grew up in Tosin, maryland. He's 26 years old. He graduated UPenn in 2020 and then went on to a master's program where he got that master's degree in engineering and he has addresses, as Shimon said, in Tosin, where he grew up, in Philadelphia, where he went to school, in Honolulu, which we're still looking into, but he is strongly believed to be the suspect in this case.

Speaker 5:

It's incredibly interesting and it also speaks to the fact that he just had Josh Campbell. You're with us now. So much on his person. According to police, from a suppressor to they're saying it's the fake ID they believe that he used at the hostel the New Jersey fake ID when he was in New York. And then this manifesto talking about why he did this.

Speaker 4:

This is somebody who wants to get caught. This is a politically motivated murder and somebody wants the attention so that they can have a podium to speak from, so that people listen to what they're saying. It's pretty. Want to get caught, right? You went through all this trouble not to get caught. Uh, you skipped town. You rode your bike, your rental bike. You left all your dna behind. I told you guys this guy was not a pro um, I told you he was a kid um. And and like you know, you don't carry around the ghost gun.

Speaker 4:

A week later, right the gun with the suppressor and keep the fake ID that you use to check into the hotel with a manifesto and the same mask that you were wearing the day of the murder Allegedly this is what they're saying was caught on them. Again, there's a fog, but you don't do that unless you want to be caught. And you don't go to a McDonald's while there's a nationwide manhunt for you and your photo is all over the place. You would hide out, just stay in your house, what? Or just leave, go on a hiking trip, go, go, go live in the appalachian mountains for, you know, two months. Go camping for a couple months. You know why would you carry the gun out like a couple hours from new york city?

Speaker 5:

it doesn't make any sense uh, I mean, that tells you a lot about his maybe expectation that ultimately, this was all going to catch up with him, even as he tried to get away.

Speaker 9:

Yeah, you're spot on and you know, sometimes these major incidents that start with a bang and with a whimper. We didn't see a dramatic police takedown. What we saw is someone eating at a McDonald's who then had the police called on him and apparently taken into custody without incident. And you know it's so interesting. You know, john, and I've been covering this you know there was this consensus in looking at that initial surveillance video from outside that hotel that police weren't dealing with Carlos the Jackal here. I mean, you look at everything from his stance and holding that gun to the type of gun itself, to the mistakes that he had made, apparently leaving behind a water bottle and a burner phone, and so this was a sophisticated job in the sense that it appeared to be planned and then executed and then he was able to successfully flee and escape arrest for several days.

Speaker 9:

But when you look at all of that material with him on his person whenever he is actually taken into custody, someone who had the wherewithal to plan all of this and then to escape several law enforcement agencies would have had to have known that having all of that on his person would implicate him in this crime.

Speaker 9:

As you mentioned, you have the fake ID, an ID that was matching the fake ID he used to check into that hostel.

Speaker 9:

You have the mask that he had that was on these images that have been seen now around the world, and specifically the firearm itself.

Speaker 9:

All of those items could have been ditched along the way as he was trying to escape, but he had them on his person. Of course we can get into the firearms forensics if you'd like to see how that would actually play a key role here. But when you look, finally, at the manifesto, you have to raise the question is this someone who expected to be caught and didn't mind being caught eventually, particularly if he is someone who was railing against the industry in which this murder victim had worked? To have all that material on you and then to have essentially the motive laying out the motive in these documents for police to find everyone you know? Any good attorney will tell you that the best way to escape any type of serious charge, such as murder, is to create reasonable doubt, to have no evidence on your person, to try to fight every accusation that comes your way. That much, much harder when you have all of that with you as you're taken into custody.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, certainly an intriguing point why he would have that kind of note on him. It speaks to some form of premeditation, at least Josh Campbell.

Speaker 4:

thank you for that he wanted to get caught, like I said. I mean, that's the obvious answer, at least from where I'm sitting, that's the obvious answer. But we will follow this closely. There may be a trial. There may not be a trial, maybe a plea deal. New York does not have the death penalty. Most likely he will be in prison for the rest of his life. He's 26 years old, so for the next, just completely ruined his life, threw his life down the toilet. Ivy League student got infected with anti-capitalist, liberal BS that drove him to this crime Right Now.

Speaker 4:

The healthcare system. It's not the healthcare system. That is just completely effed in this country. It's not. It's not the healthcare system. It's not the healthcare system that is just completely effed in this country. It's not. It's not the healthcare system, it's the fact that you have to have insurance. You should not have to have insurance when you go to the hospital. An aspirin should not cost $100. A bandage shouldn't cost $50 for a Band-Aid, but that's what the insurance system does. You know, if the insurance system didn't exist, you know, there there's people that. Here's an example. This is an example of how the system works.

Speaker 4:

A personal story when my son was born, we wanted him to be circumcised, right. And we went to the doctor and we said, hey, we want to have him circumcised. And they're like, no, well, you have insurance, so, uh, we won't. We won't circumcise them. Uh, because insurance only pays fifty dollars to do the circumcision. But when, when we charge cash, it's like $200 or something I don't remember what the exact numbers were but it wasn't worth it for the doctor to do it. So, therefore, wouldn't do it if you had insurance, would only do it if you didn't have insurance and you had to pay cash, right. So we had to find a loophole and we eventually got it done. But that's the system. That's the system. It's the fact that the insurance company is not paying the cost of it or whatever. But that also happens the other way. Have insurance, then the doctor can only charge you, you know, less, so that they don't want to treat you at all because insurance will pay you know 700 for the visit, but you cash will only be 50. So they're just not going to take you as a patient.

Speaker 4:

Get rid of insurance. Get rid of the medical insurance industry. Gut it, get rid of all of it. Open it up to the free market, let the free market dictate it, and you're going to get better doctors, better treatment, and it's going to be available to everybody. It's just like an expense. There's no food insurance. People eat every day. You're going to have to be able to go see the doctor. It's insane. Go see the doctor Like it's just it's. It's insane, it's asinine and it's it's a problem in this society, but that does not mean to go out and murder CEOs. So thank you very much for tuning in. Don't forget to hit that like, share and subscribe button. Follow us on Facebook, twitter, rumble. If you're listening on Rumble, follow on Rumble. And thank you for tuning in and we will see you tomorrow night.

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