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Pam Bondi's Possible AG Nomination & Florida's Gun Law Controversies

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What if the next U.S. Attorney General was the first female to hold the office in Florida, with a track record of battling fentanyl trafficking and a reputation for strong conservative values? Join us as we unpack the compelling potential nomination of Pam Bondi. Her history and alignment with Donald Trump, alongside endorsements from traditional Republican figures like Jeb Bush, make her a fascinating candidate to revamp the Department of Justice. We weigh her experience and collaboration with law enforcement against the backdrop of Matt Gaetz's recent withdrawal, exploring the political dynamics at play and the implications for Trump's administration.

Our episode ventures into the heart of Florida's heated legislative discussions, where new proposals like the Gun Violence Restraining Order challenge notions of due process and mental health evaluations. We also cover the introduction of a youth reporting app for gun control, sparking conversations about privacy, government overreach, and the impact of media on young minds. With these pressing topics, we aim to shed light on the intricate interplay of politics, legal proceedings, and societal concerns, offering listeners a comprehensive look at the current political landscape in Florida and beyond.

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Welcome and welcome to the show. Thank you for tuning in. Uh, don't forget to hit that like share and subscribe button before we begin. We're going to talk today about pam bondy. Uh, we already talked about the resignation or the withdrawal of the nomination for Matt Gates. We're going to get into that a little bit further. But we're going to talk about Pam Bondi. Who is she? Is she actually a good choice for attorney general? Obviously, it's not the number one pick. The number one pick would obviously be Matt Gates. Pick would obviously be Matt Gaetz. I think Matt Gaetz would have done a phenomenal job in revamping the Department of Justice.

Speaker 4:

Will Pam Bondi revamp the Department of Justice? Will she go after the people that went after Donald Trump? My answer to that is I would be surprised if she did. She's more, she's not really one to make massive waves. Matt Gaetz in Congress to his fellow Congress people was a problem right, because he called them out on their nonsense. He was off the rocker, nominated Donald Trump for Speaker of the House and caused the libs to freak out and melt down. But Pam Bondi was the first female attorney general for the state of Florida. She has been endorsed for attorney general today by Jeb Bush, attorney General today by Jeb Bush.

Speaker 4:

So that's bringing up concerns that you know. Oh, these typical, you know Republicans, or these class Republicans, are endorsing her. Is she actually the right choice? Only time is going to tell. For that, she has been very loyal to Donald Trump. That is precisely and exactly what Donald Trump is looking for in these picks. And exactly what Donald Trump is looking for in these picks. There is a common trend with every one of his picks and they are extreme loyalists who are not going to betray Donald Trump as far as he is concerned. That's why we don't see Ron DeSantis in the running for anything. We don't see Nikki Haley in the running for anything. These people Donald Trump feels betrayed him when they ran for office against him. He is picking staunch loyalists and people who are going to support his every single move. Here is Pam Bondi at a press conference with Sheriff Grady on fentanyl. Let's listen to this.

Speaker 1:

These criminals made one very big mistake. They wound up in Polk County. And I'll tell you, it's bad enough in one thing to profit from poisoning others, but it's another when you bring drugs from Mexico into our country California, texas, georgia and end up in our state and do it with impunity. Because when you're in this country illegally and you're doing things illegally, I want to tell you and you wind up in Polk County, grady Judd is going to find you, the DEA is going to help him and my statewide prosecutors are going to lock you up for as long as we can and we're going to enjoy it. And each of these defendants are looking at 15, 30 years in Florida state prison for conspiracy to traffic drugs.

Speaker 4:

So she's hard nose on the drug issue. Sheriff Grady is famously hard nose on criminals. This is typically a Florida position. Florida is staunchly conservative, staunchly anti-crime. We still famously have the death penalty in Florida and she is going to be a benefit in terms of that. In terms of the legality of the deportations and the illegal immigrants and the fentanyl crisis, I think she's going to be an ally in that regard. There is some things I do have some serious concerns about and I have some videos of her that we're going to analyze.

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Speaker 5:

Pam Bondi is exactly what I was saying in the last segment, that we should all fear because she's competent.

Speaker 4:

We the biggest fear MSNBC has? Fear because she's competent. The biggest fear MSNBC has is somebody who's competent, even though their entire administration for the past four years has been completely incompetent, from the president to the vice president, to the attorney general, to the director of the FBI. I don't think there was a single competent person in the Biden administration not one.

Speaker 5:

We may not agree with her ideologically, but she actually knows how to do this job. So if anyone on the Democratic side or anyone who cared about liberty or justice was thinking, well, maybe Matt Gaetz will screw this up and that'll give us some time, no, pam Bondi knows what she's doing. She knows what she's doing about immigration. Remember, florida is one of those states that's been very aggressive about migrants and deportation and moving people to different states and everything else like that. Florida has enacted all sorts of rules and laws to to curtail students and what they can do on campuses and and finding legal justifications for manipulating education money. She is a dangerous and effective pick and that's, frankly, worse than what we would have got with Matt Gaetz, even with the deplorable moral background that he has.

Speaker 4:

I disagree that it's worse for the Democrats. I think if Matt Gaetz would have been better at revamping the Department of Justice, he would have in that aspect Matt Gaetz is a rock star would have been a rock star he would have went into the gates is a rock star. Would have been a rock star he would have went into the department of justice. He would have completely revamped the entire thing and he would have fired a lot of people, released a lot of documents, set out a lot of indictments. She is going to be more of your typical attorney general who's going to get the job done and be a supporter of Donald Trump.

Speaker 4:

I don't anticipate massive revamping of the Department of Justice with her. There Could be. I could be completely wrong. Hey, I've been wrong on this show many times. My avid listeners know that. But the notion that she's worse than Matt Gaetz is, I think I disagree with that. But the notion that she's worse than Matt Gates is, I think I disagree with that. Even if she was, I mean, you get what you wish for right there, buddy. You didn't want Matt Gates to run. You didn't want Matt Gates to be the attorney general, and now he's gone. You're upset because this one's competent. Come on, come on bro.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, and I want to discuss that with a little more depth with both of you, including her record on civil rights, lgbtq rights and other issues that are front and center at the DOJ and which we know were also big campaign issues this cycle.

Speaker 4:

So that's MSNBC, who is just having internal meltdowns. They are not going to. This is not going to end well for the Democrats, like at all. So here is here's Pam Bondi. She also was an attorney for Donald Trump in the impeachment trial. Now, remember, he's picking loyalists people who have had his back. She was one of the attorneys who defended him in one of the impeachment trials. Just listen to this.

Speaker 1:

Chief Justice, senators, senators, you heard our answer regarding that yesterday, but it is very interesting that he said he never spoke to his son about overseas dealings. His son said different things. Joe Biden was the point man for Ukraine investigating at the time. Ukrainians were a corrupt company, burisma and Zolchevsky, its owner, an oligarch who by all media accounts we've discussed was extremely corrupt. Hunter Biden is paid $83,000 a month a month to sit on that board, with no experience in energy, no experience in the Ukraine, doesn't speak the language and we clearly know that he had a very fancy job description and he did none of those things. He attended one or two board meetings, one in Monaco, and then he went on a fishing trip with Joe Biden's family in Norway the entire time. Joe Biden knows that. Joe Biden knows that this oligarch is corrupt and Joe Biden knows that Joe.

Speaker 4:

Biden knows that this oligarch is corrupt, yeah, so, for those of you who don't know, there is some strong evidence to suggest that Hunter Biden was sitting on the committee of an, on the board of an energy company in Ukraine, which, to some, could seriously explain Joe Biden's heavy interest and support in Ukraine. Joe Biden's heavy interest and support in Ukraine, and perhaps even the recent allowing of the United States missiles to be launched in Russia which were responded with and the first ICBM used in world history in war, some people connect those dots and assume that Joe Biden's staunch support for Ukraine is to cover up his son's crimes, which, given all the information that we have on the Biden family, it would not surprise me. But yeah, let's listen again.

Speaker 1:

Everyone knows that. There are news reports everywhere. No one will dispute that. In fact, it raised eyebrows worldwide, but the vice president, by his account, never once asked his son to leave the board. We wouldn't be sitting here if he did. He never asked his son to leave the board. Instead, he started investigating the prosecutor who was going after Burisma and this corrupt oligarch who they say was corrupt even by oligarch standards who had fled the country. Fled the country, living in Monaco. He does not ask him to leave the board. He does the opposite In 2015,. What does he do? We know by reports.

Speaker 1:

He has close contact with President Poroshenko. He travels to Ukraine twice. He links it to the fire. He links the aid to the firing. Same thing in 2016 at a White House meeting. Links the aid to the firing of the prosecutor. Calls him four times in the eight days up to leading to the prosecutor the prosecutor investigating Hunter Biden. Yet he never says that all cases close Days before Biden leaves office. He jokes to Poroshenko that he may have to call him every couple weeks to check in. Hunter Biden stays on that board for three years.

Speaker 4:

And again, you know this is what Trump is looking for. He's looking for loyalists and I would argue that maybe not always or necessarily the best person for the job. I think she's a good person for the job. I don't think she's the greatest or the best. I think she'll do well and we'll see. We still got to get through the Senate. I think she's a safe choice that the Senate will go ahead and approve the nomination for attorney general and after eating a little bit of crow, after Matt Gaetz did not go through, Of course, Matt Gaetz withdrew.

Speaker 4:

We read the statement yesterday that he's withdrawing because his being a controversial pick is distracting from the campaign. That's nonsense. It's nonsense. It's a political statement. He was nominated for attorney general. He withdrew, he resigned from Congress and then he resigned from being attorney general after he met with the certain senators that I'm assuming just said you're not, we're not going to vote for you, Like it's never going to happen, there's nothing you can do.

Speaker 4:

I know Donald Trump. I heard this personally through people very close to Donald Trump that he Donald Trump personally made phone calls to certain senators and they weren't budging at all. So it did a couple of things, though Now Donald Trump knows who's who and what's what and who has his back in the Senate, but he also knows that he needs an attorney general. That's going to get through. That's not going to cause a major controversy. She's not going to cause major controversy. There may be some insane scandal that comes out. I'm sure there'll be something. Some case she did 10 years ago as attorney general that this innocent person's in jail or blah blah, blah, blah, blah or, who knows, maybe she's a child molester too, like everybody else that they try to paint with that brush.

Speaker 1:

Of course it makes President Trump stronger. I don't want to see him in jail, though.

Speaker 4:

No one wants to see him in jail.

Speaker 1:

This is a witch hunt. It continues to be a witch hunt. He's not violating the gag order. He is the defendant. He has every right to say I'm innocent. What they're doing is unfair to me. And again, this judge has every right and should gag Michael Cohen, the prosecution's star witness. Yeah, he's not.

Speaker 4:

She's talking about the gag order in New York, where they put a gag order on Donald Trump, saying that he basically can't talk about the case, which is nonsense. He's a defendant in the case and he has every right to speak out publicly. That's your First Amendment rights. You know, judges a lot of times get a little bit power hungry and they trample on people's rights more than anybody else. I mean we're talking about before that they're even convicted of a crime, which is what she's saying here, right, which is interesting considering on one of her statements that she had made previously.

Speaker 1:

Colin. That judge has the authority, Bianca, to call in every single witness and say don't talk about this trial if you're a witness. Yet he's letting Michael Cohen basically try to bait President Trump on TikTok, making money on TikTok, going after President Trump, posting memes of President Trump in jail clothes. And President Trump can't even defend himself. He was out there talking about the chaos of these universities. He has an audience. I think they hate that so much that Donald Trump is out there leading this country where Joe Biden is not, even though he's forced to sit in the courtroom every day, Of course, Yep, I, I mean all of that is 100 true and um accurate.

Speaker 4:

Here is pam bondy with donald trump. Now this, this is what I was talking about, and this definitely has me um a little concerned, frankly, more than a little concerned. Let's listen to this interaction.

Speaker 1:

Pam Bond, the Attorney General of Florida and Mayor. Thank you, I know you're going through a lot now, president. She was there that night with me, I think, and you were there with me until 3.30 in the morning when all these families were being notified and it was horrific. So I know you've been through a lot. So thank you so much, sure.

Speaker 4:

Great job.

Speaker 1:

I have a couple issues that I'll wait and talk about them now.

Speaker 3:

Talk about them. You can talk.

Speaker 1:

Well one. It addresses some of the things you said. In Florida it's called the Baker Act, but it's our Civil Commitment Act and it's weak.

Speaker 4:

So she's talking about the Baker Act, right? No-transcript.

Speaker 1:

It's about 1,000 pages long and I've had my solicitor general on it for four days, three days now, working on it. We're rewriting it along with Governor Scott, who you're going to meet with him. He's going to give you a ton of good information. We've been rewriting it and we are going to bring in something called the Gun Violence Restraining Order.

Speaker 4:

Very important that you listen to that Gun Violence Restraining Order.

Speaker 1:

So if someone is civilly committed and typically you can hold them for up to 72 hours but people are getting out within 24 hours, the majority of them so what we want to do is let law enforcement come in and take the guns.

Speaker 3:

They are a danger to themselves or others, which you can't do right now.

Speaker 1:

Well, because, without being adjudicated, so because they're a danger to themselves.

Speaker 3:

You want them to take the guns and not go through six months of legal trials, six months of legal trials.

Speaker 4:

So understand what her and Trump are saying Without going through six months of legal trials, they want to take the guns before anybody is committed. Right Now, the Baker Act. If you're Baker Acted, the police department is going to come and take your guns away. This is a civil thing. They're not even committing you. They're just taking you to a mental health professional to get evaluated to see if you actually are suicidal or not, right, and if not, you're released within 24 hours, like she said. If you are, they keep you for 72 and then they recommend further treatment. Blah, blah, blah. What she wants to do is, essentially, it gives the police department and I was a police officer in Florida, okay, so this is nothing new to me it gives the police officer the authority, when they feel like it, to just take your guns If you're like, oh well, yeah, no, baker Act, take all the guns. Do you have any guns in the house? We're going to take the guns okay, and that's insane without being convicted.

Speaker 4:

And it's contrary to what she was saying before about the gag order from the judge, right? So that's how it correlates. She's saying, well, donald Trump doesn't be convicted. There shouldn't be a gag order on Donald Trump. He has the right to speak freely, blah, blah, blah. To a, to a hearing, before their guns are taken away, before they're convicted of any crime, right, isn't that the same pam bondy? So this is where my issue lies with her. Um is that her and donald trump has said this before he has, and we're very fair in this show. I'm not um, just a, an always trumper. I do like donald trump majority of the time, but on this issue he kind of loses me where he says you got to take the guns first. You should take the guns first. Um, no, you should not. Your, your gun is a. Your weapons are a sovereign right. Gun rights are there. Sorry, it's the second amendment. It's very important.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, but we also have to give the mentally ill the due process in which they deserve, president. So what we're doing is they're going to be able to take the guns when they're taken into custody or into the hospital and then, when they're released, within 24 hours or 72 hours later typically it's 24 hours, but law enforcement will have 72 hours to determine whether they should give those guns back or they can go to a judge and say your honor, please keep these guns.

Speaker 3:

We feel this person is still a danger to himself or others, whether they're in or out of custody, so this would not have worked the way it's currently constituted. This would not have worked with Cruz as it's currently constituted.

Speaker 1:

As it's currently written.

Speaker 3:

So you're going to make changes, we're going to make changes.

Speaker 1:

And one other thing we're doing about the reporting, president, which is huge. This is a big issue. We need a clearinghouse and that's what we've all been discussing and we have created, and several of my counterparts have done it around the country, but we're the biggest state doing it. It's an app because kids now are on social media and there were so many warning signs on snapchat, on twitter, on instagram, and they were, they were posting them, they were sending them to all different sources. We're going to have and we just got it written in our house and senate budget. It'll cost at least half a million dollars a year to fund this, but what it does kids.

Speaker 1:

And so I met with 10 students and they loved it and they said said, I'm empowering them. Three of them are my graphic designers. They're going to design the icon, some are going to name it, they're helping us with it, but it'll cost probably about $100,000 maximum to develop. That's all in our budget. So what kids can do now they can automatically send something that says I'm going to buy a gun, just like Cruz was doing. I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this. And one of the girls who I met with, one of the students told me he had been doing this since middle school, he had bullied her and she reported it. So it will all they can instantly, and they can do it with anonymity. Put it in this app. It'll go in the app and it'll go to one clearinghouse with state law law enforcement in Florida.

Speaker 4:

Sounds very Orwellian, right, sounds very 1984. Sounds very well. Just anonymously report this person to the government and the law enforcement will just go there and take their guns away. Whoa what, what? And Trump is sitting there. Uh-huh, I agree, uh-huh, I agree. So, on this, this issue, trump lost me uh, he lost me a long time ago on this issue. We just don't agree on this issue and that's okay. I agree on a lot of donald trump's issues and I think he is the best candidate. I think he's wrong with gun control.

Speaker 4:

I think banning, you know, bump stocks was a bad idea. I, I do, I, I and I think that having an app for children to use to turn in their, their, their, whoever they feel like or whoever they're mad at that day, or, you know, essentially, swat anybody they want to SWAT. If you don't know what SWATing is, that's where, like, a lot of live streamers will be live streaming. All of a sudden, a SWAT team will kick in their door and raid their house because somebody, a viewer, has called the SWAT team and said this person's doing X, y and Z, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and gives them reason to go and SWAT the house. Essentially is what we're doing. I don't agree with this at all. I think it's way too intrusive. I think it's way too Orwellian. I think it's way too much government involvement in my business.

Speaker 3:

Well, you mentioned the internet. We have to look at the internet because a lot of bad things are happening to young kids and young minds and their minds are being formed and we have to do something about, maybe, what they're seeing and how they're seeing it. And also video games. I'm hearing more and more people say the level of violence on video games is really shaping young people's thoughts. And then you go the further step and that's the movies. You see these movies. They're so violent and yet a kid is able to see the movie if sex isn't involved.

Speaker 4:

So he's talking about basically the rating system, anyway. So that's something to watch and be concerned about. The good thing is is that any gun legislation that they try to pass through congress or the senate will be hopefully, uh, swiftly, um, shut down by the Republicans in Congress and the Senate. So here's an article from the Associated Press. This should be interesting. Have not read it. Politics what to know about Pam Bondi, trump's new pick for Attorney General. New York Associated Press.

Speaker 4:

Pam Bondi, the former Florida Attorney General, was chosen by Donald Trump to serve US Attorney General hours after his first choice. Matt Gaetz withdrew from consideration after a federal sex trafficking investigation and ethics probe made his ability to be confirmed dubious. I mean, that's what they're saying in this article. Although that's not what Matt Gaetz is saying, that's not what Donald Trump is saying. I just don't think that he had the votes. I don't. I think he made a lot of waves, he did not make a lot of friends in a good way and it came back to bite him in the ass.

Speaker 4:

The 59-year-old has long been in Trump's orbit and her name had been floating during his first term as potential candidate for nation's highest law enforcement role. Trump announced his plans to nominate Bondi Thursday and, as social media confers to confirm, by Republican-led Senate, bondi would instantly become one of the most closely watched members of Trump's cabinet. Given the Republicans' threat to pursue retribution against perceived adversaries, there's never been a threat. This is just nonsense and concern among Democrats that will look to bend Justice Department to his will. Here's a few things to know about Bondi. She's long been a fixture in Trump's world. Okay, so what? Bondi has been a long time and early ally. In March 2016, on the eve of the Republican primary in Florida, bondi endorsed Trump at a rally, picking him over candidate from her own state for the center marker, rub rubio. She gained national attention with appearances on fox news as a defender of trump and had a notable speaking spot at 2016 national convention as trump became party's surprising nominee. During the remarks, some in the crowd being chanted lock her up. Trump's democratic rivalry, hillary clinton, bondi responded by saying lock her up. I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what? He never locked her up. He never locked her up, yes, uh. Here's another thing. She was florida's first female attorney general.

Speaker 4:

Bondi made history in 2010 when she was elected as florida's first female attorney general, though the tampa native spent more than 18 years as a prosecutor in the hillsbury county state office, she was a politically unknown. When she held the state's top law enforcement job, bondi was elevated in the primary after she was endorsed by former Alaska Governor and Vice President candidate, sarah Palin. I love Sarah Palin. She endorsed this show too. It's in the intro. I'm sure you've heard it. She's great. She's been always nice to me and kind, picks up the phone when I called and I know she watches the show. Sarah, thank you again and I hope you're watching today.

Speaker 4:

She campaigned on a message to use the state's top legal office in a robust way, challenging then-President Barack Obama's signature health care law. She also called for a state to adopt Arizona's show-me show me your papers immigration law that sparked national debate. Show me your papers. I love that. That's like a nazi germany thing and they just like they renamed the immigration law. Show me your papers like no, if you're illegal, you should not be in this country. Sorry, get the hell out.

Speaker 4:

As florida's top prosecutor, bondi stress human trafficking issue and urged tightening state laws against traffickers. She held a job in 2011. Another one she worked as a lobbyist for both us and foreign clients. Okay, she defended trump during his first impeachment trial. Yes, I'm not donating to the associated press. She's been critical of criminal cases against Trump Uh-huh, so has most people who know what the hell they're talking about.

Speaker 4:

She's had a few of her own political issues. Bondi issued a public apology 2013 while serving as Attorney General, after she sought to delay the execution of a convicted killer because it conflicted with a fundraiser for her re-election campaign. The Attorney General representing the state in death row appeals typically remains available on the date of execution cases in case that last-minute legal issues. Bondi later said she was wrong and started requesting then-Governor Rick Scott put back the executor of Marshall E Gore by three weeks. Bondi personally solicited a 2013 political contribution for Trump.

Speaker 4:

Yada, political contribution for trump. Yada, yada, yada, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. That's really all they have, so no dirt as of yet. Um, from uh the news. We will see. Uh, she is a woman, so therefore, to the left, she's a protected class, so she's going to be a little bit harder to attack. The pedophile or sexual predator thing is not going to stick against her. We're going to see how this goes. I do have serious concerns on the gun legislation thing, especially since her and Trump see eye to eye on that and we will follow it closely and any other appointees. Thanks for tuning in. Make sure you hit that like share and subscribe button. Um, follow this channel. Subscribe, subscribe, subscribe, follow, follow, follow for more content and we will see you next time.

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